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I just installed my new Delta 410 and when I try to record through Sonar 2 I get constant clicks. It isn't clipping because I moved the audio down to about -4db. I have ran the wave profiler and I have even tried my own settings yet it still clicks whenever I record. When I tested out recording on goldwave, it worked perfectly fine. No clicks or anything, clean recording. Anyone have a solution?
 
This is what it sounds like when I try to record, just to prove that it isn't a clipping sound

 
I'm going to take a stab in the dark here and assume you have two sound cards in your machine.

What you need to do is, in Sonar, under Options -> Audio, in the general tab as a playback timing master and Record Timing Master, you have two different sound card selected? Change that to just the Delta and see how you go.

Porter

PS. I had a similar issue to the one you have when I first started. This fixed it.
 
What's your machine specs and what's your latency?
 
moskus said:
What's your machine specs and what's your latency?
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AMD XP 1800+ running at 1.8ghz
512mb pc3200
abit nf7-s mobo
delta 410

latency is set at 80ms. I have changed it to 3 seconds and the same problem occurs

Porter said:
I'm going to take a stab in the dark here and assume you have two sound cards in your machine.

What you need to do is, in Sonar, under Options -> Audio, in the general tab as a playback timing master and Record Timing Master, you have two different sound card selected? Change that to just the Delta and see how you go.

Porter

PS. I had a similar issue to the one you have when I first started. This fixed it.
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Correct. I have 2 sound cards. My SB live is the playback, and the delta is my recording. Thats how I had the timing masters setup, so I changed them both to the delta, but the same problem still occurs.
 
strat0tele said:
Thats how I had the timing masters setup, so I changed them both to the delta, but the same problem still occurs.
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That's a good starting point. But could you check in your Delta Control Panel and find your DMA buffer size?
 
moskus said:
That's a good starting point. But could you check in your Delta Control Panel and find your DMA buffer size?
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512 samples. I've changed it to 786 but it didn't fix it. I'll try the highest setting just for the hell of it.


edit: still doesn't do anything. It seems to have gotten worse than when I first made that clip.
 
I am about to throw this soundcard out the window. I have 2.2 sonar. It sucks wondering if version three would fix it. But I don't have the money to upgrade =\
 
Unfortunately I can't offer any specific advice, other than mentioning that it doesn't seem like using a different version of Sonar would make any difference...
 
pennylink said:
Unfortunately I can't offer any specific advice, other than mentioning that it doesn't seem like using a different version of Sonar would make any difference...
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Yea, I don't know. I just figured since i have no problems with goldwave to record, I figured maybe its something wrong with 2.2 and a new version would help.



Pedullist said:
Rip out the Live first...why the hell do you need it anyway?

And have you checked your videocard settings?

Read this:

http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Docs/VideocardTips.html
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why? because I use it for my games. 5.1 sound.

I don't see why all of a sudden my video card would be causing problems because it never did before, although I'll give it a shot
 
Pedullist said:
And you use the Live as a playback master in SONAR?

How are the bitrate settings? I can imagine 48000Hz on one card, and 44100hz on the other might cause problems.

I'm only guessing here.

Btw, I've found this post:

http://pub136.ezboard.com/fdelta1010forumthedelta1010withotherhardware.showMessage?topicID=338.topic

Might be an interesting read....
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No I changed the delta to playback. But I use the live to playback sound,but that wouldn't have anything to do with sound being recording because I shutoff the software monitor.

Hmm.....Interesting, Just checked my IRQs and my soundcard and delta share the same IRQ. That can't be good. I'll see if I can change that.
 
strat0tele said:
No I changed the delta to playback. But I use the live to playback sound,but that wouldn't have anything to do with sound being recording because I shutoff the software monitor.
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In one of my earlier posts on this forum (back around February) I was having an issue with the extra sound in your recording. Now when you record, you have playback or even later, do you have the playback coming through the SB? I found if I sent up Input to my other card (Edirol Da-2496) and output to the SB the recording stuffed up, however when running both as the Edirol and had the output coming out of that it was fine. Check that.. ie record a track using just your delta as an input and output, doesn't matter if you can't hear it in Sonar, then export it and see if you get the same error.

Porter
 
Porter said:
In one of my earlier posts on this forum (back around February) I was having an issue with the extra sound in your recording. Now when you record, you have playback or even later, do you have the playback coming through the SB? I found if I sent up Input to my other card (Edirol Da-2496) and output to the SB the recording stuffed up, however when running both as the Edirol and had the output coming out of that it was fine. Check that.. ie record a track using just your delta as an input and output, doesn't matter if you can't hear it in Sonar, then export it and see if you get the same error.

Porter
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I heard that sound right after I record and play, not only when I export. And I tried having the delta also as the output during recording just to see what happens, but still no go.
 
strat0tele said:
Hmm.....Interesting, Just checked my IRQs and my soundcard and delta share the same IRQ. That can't be good. I'll see if I can change that. [/B]
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It's baaaaaaad! :)

I'm pretty sure giving the Delta its own IRQ might solve problems...it really doesn't like sharing. The good thing is: it only needs one IRQ.
 
Pedullist said:
Rip out the Live first...
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Finally a smart guy around here! :D

Strat0Tele, I'm pretty sure this will solve your problems. :)
 
Pedullist said:
It's baaaaaaad! :)

I'm pretty sure giving the Delta its own IRQ might solve problems...it really doesn't like sharing. The good thing is: it only needs one IRQ.
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Yea, I made a mistake in typing that. It was not my live and delta that were having conflicts. Its my video card and delta which are on the same IRQ which is probably just as bad. I'm going to try to change the IRQ right now.

EDIT: Just as I expected....I changed my setup so my video card, and the 2 sound cards were on 3 seperate IRQ's but still the same problem. I have done everything in that seperate link but still the same fscking thing. I am about to just throw this f'ing thing out the window.
 
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I still haven't gotten it fixed maybe it's a silly setting I have. Just check over what I have

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Hmmm... you might want to try to uncheck the "Apply Dither" box under Options -> Audio -> Advanced.
 
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