Classically Trained Opera Singer Evaluates Top Metal Vocalists

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Check out his article. It's really interesting: http://www.invisibleoranges.com/2010/07/ask-a-real-musician-5-classic-male-metal-singers/


If you don't want to click on the link I have the gist of it here:

Ask a real musician: 5 classic male metal singers
By invisibleoranges Published: July 30, 2010

If you’re a singer, you should be following Claudia Friedlander’s blog. The classically-trained, New York-based voice teacher provides sage advice not only for singers for all types, but also for musicians and people in general.

Although at least one of her students sings metal, Friedlander knows virtually nothing about it. I wondered what she would think of some of metal’s most classic male singers – the foundation of the artform. It’s rare to find someone who isn’t familiar with any of these singers. Her perspective would be a fresh one, free of cultural baggage. I sent her five completely unidentified songs. Her comments are below.
— C.L.

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Bruce Dickson Iron Maiden 'The Number of The Beast'

I have nothing but admiration for this singer. Listen how he starts off with a soft growl, then moves seamlessly into a well-supported, sustained high full-voice sound that then evolves into an effortless long scream! His diction is easily intelligible, regardless of the range he’s singing in or the effect he’s going for. He achieves an intensely rhythmic delivery of the lyrics without losing legato and musical momentum, something a lot of classical singers struggle with, especially when interpreting the many staccato and accent markings that crowd scores by Bellini, Donizetti, etc.

Ronnie James Dio Black Sabbath 'Falling Off The Edge of The World'

This is another very fine singer. His voice is so naturally resonant – he reminds me of Freddie Mercury. Like the first singer, he performs with perfect legato, clear diction, and a consistent, organic vibrancy. He arranges his resonance space to create a shallow snarl without setting up any resistance for his breath. You can tell how healthy his delivery is from the way he moves in and out of brief moments of harmony with the other tracks with impeccable intonation.

King Diamond Mercyful Fate 'Gypsy'

Here is some impressively artful singing. He begins in full-voice tenor fraught with sobbing verismo-like ornaments and then wails in an ultra-high, very focused countertenor, alternating these two approaches throughout the song, at times even within the same phrase. But not only do I not understand a single word he’s saying, I don’t even know what the overall message or emotion of the song is supposed to be! It is true of classical singing as well as for any other style: there is no need to sacrifice communication for the sake of stunning effects like this. All I hear is virtuosity. At first it’s cool, then it gets boring, and you shouldn’t feel bored listening to metal.


Ozzy Black Sabbath 'War Pigs'

This is a singer with decent diction and good musical instincts but no command of vocal technique. He is massively over-adducting his vocal folds while driving enough air through them to get them to speak, but his throat is so tight that there is no flow or resonance. His rhythmic punctuation of the lyrics is very distracting, in contrast with Singer #1 who delivered his text with rhythmic accents that served, rather than detracted from the flow of music and poetry. It hurt my throat so much to listen to him that I was tempted to ask Cosmo how long his career lasted before he either washed out or needed surgery. The entire range of his singing is contained within a single octave – with the exception of the moment when he yells “Oh Lord!” a little higher, in my opinion the only quasi-free vocal sound on the entire track.

Rob Halford Judas Priest 'Dreamer Deceiver'

This singer has a fabulous range of vocal colors and effects to choose from. His diction is easy to understand, and his phrasing is lovely throughout. He begins with such a high, gorgeous, resonant messa di voce that I was surprised to hear how low his actual full singing voice sits once he moved into it. Clearly he had been singing with a somewhat elevated larynx when he started out so high, and later in the song when he moves into a more shrill, high sneer or a scream you can tell his larynx is in a much higher position once again. The high singing and screaming is still relatively free, but I feel that it would be even more impactful if he would master a vocal technique that would enable him to better integrate all of these different things he does so well, primarily with the goal of incorporating the depth and resonance of his natural low sound into the high stuff. He is the only one of the five who I truly wish would visit my studio some time.
 
Kinda stupid to compare Ozzy to Bruce Dickinson and not Dio.

Interesting article though, you're right!
 
Kinda stupid to compare Ozzy to Bruce Dickinson and not Dio.
Perhaps, but remember, she didn't know a black maiden from an iron sabbath or a rainbow priest from a Judas diamond....
 
I was tempted to ask Cosmo how long [ozzy's] career lasted before he either washed out or needed surgery.

:laughings:
 
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Very interesting read, though it makes me want to do this with a whole bunch of other metal singers, most notably Devin Townsend, or maybe Mikael Akersfeldt from Opeth (think she'd even realize it was the same vocalist througout, on something like "Ghost of Perdition"?)
 
I am not sure she is as unaware of metal as the writer claims she is- she, after all, referenced Freddy Mercury without prompting. Regardless of whether Mercury was or was not a metal singer, that suggest that she is at least somewhat aware of the genre' or those close to it.

And so, okay, she found three whole metal vocalist that didn't send her, shrieking, from the room. That does not mean the entire genre' is worth a damn... (JK- I just love pushing metalists' buttons...:D )
 
What I took from this article, and she alluded to this a bit, was the relatively short-lived nature of these careers. There are those who will say, "Yeah, but look at how long Ozzy has been around." However, I contend that he hasn't actually been SINGING all these years.

It got me to wondering. Do [insert extreme vocal genre of your choice] singers not generally last long because:

1. They burn out their vocal cords quickly
2. They get tired of making music that basically sounds the same
3. Their fans get tired of listening to music that basically sounds the same
4. The exhaustive tour schedules in order to keep their name in the limelight take a toll
5. The lifestyle itself does not support longevity

This makes me wax philosophical a bit. It's dangerous to generalize, I know, but I think this boils down to motives. It seems that those with motives other than enjoying singing for what it is, seem not to last for more than a decade or so. But look at singers who enjoy similar big success in theatre or opera, or, dare I say...adult contemporary. These performers can be expected to be around for quite a number of years. The comparison between a bonfire and a candle flame comes to mind.

You'll never see a metal act (or rap, or grunge, or...) in a long-running Las Vegas show. But allow me a brief list of some popular Vegas acts over the years: Robert Goulet, Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Sammy Davis Jr., Barry Manilow, Celine Dion, and Sarah Brightman.

As I was writing this, I checked to see what a metal fav of mine from my youth was doing, and was surprised to see Dokken still touring. But instead of large venues, they're doing the bar thing. I was also somewhat surprised in a recent video of one of these concerts (March 2010), to see Don Dokken doing the same thing that Mick Jagger will do -- not singing and encouraging the audience to do so instead.

You sing whatever floats your boat, to be sure. But given a choice between flash-in-the-pan, or music that inspires and uplifts audiences for entire lifetimes, I'll sing the latter.

-Bruce
 
music that inspires and uplifts audiences for entire lifetimes,
Does it really need to be said that all music fulfils this......for someone ?
I've thought about this for years ~ the music I've dug at every stage of my 47 years thus far, I still dig now. There's probably 10 songs of the thousands that I've maybe gone off. Certainly the Purple/Zeppelin/Sabbath/ Priest end of metal {not to mention the many offshoots of rock and pop} could contend that the operatic side of music is but a minority sport. And 40+ years is a good length of time to have gauged this......
 
Does it really need to be said that all music fulfils this......for someone ?
I've thought about this for years ~ the music I've dug at every stage of my 47 years thus far, I still dig now.

You're right, and folks (including myself) listen to different music -- at different times -- for different reasons. But I notice, those who still patronize aging rock bands, just want to hear music played by the original artist that brings the listener back to a point in time. So, in effect, the music becomes like a skipping LP record, or a time machine, not allowing the listener to advance in his musical sophistication. And, to be sure, the purpose of listening to metal, or rap, or grunge, is not to grow brain cells. :D

I listen to "old extreme" music very seldom, and usually it is instrumental. The music that continues to hold my attention is thoughtful instrumentals, and meaningful, well-executed vocals...old or new. I love listening to Pavarotti or Domingo, and the music they sing/sang is/was often at least a hundred years old. (Although a beautiful contemporary song Elton John wrote to be sung with Pavarotti was "Live Like Horses".)

I may be in the minority. But those who sing the type of music I appreciate most, are able to do so for significantly more years than rockers/rappers/grungers. That was all I was really postulating, is how the genre of a singer's choice affects his vocal longevity.

I over-analyze things like this every once in a while... :rolleyes:

-Bruce
 
Kinda stupid to compare Ozzy to Bruce Dickinson and not Dio.

Who cares who you compare him to? He still can't fucking sing.:D

He might have "style", and I love a lot of the songs he sang, but I would never mention him in the same sentence as Dio.

EDIT: Oh wait...I'm talking about Ozzy. I think I totally mis-read your post.
 
I may be in the minority. But those who sing the type of music I appreciate most, are able to do so for significantly more years than rockers/rappers/grungers. That was all I was really postulating, is how the genre of a singer's choice affects his vocal longevity.

In every genre there are artists who stick around and those that don't. There are rockers and rappers that have been around for quite a while (rappers not as long because it is a newer genre) and I am sure there are people who sing the type of music you like that haven't hung around. Not all older rock bands are playing bars now. For instance take U2 (who I personally can't stand). They have been around forever and still sell out stadiums.
If there is anything that does cause rockers and rappers to not stay around as long, I would say it would be the more competitive nature of popular music.
 
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