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Has anybody got one of these? 56 channels for 5k,I wonder how it compares to mackie.
sonusman
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Obviously you jest!!!
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hey sonusman, I've been reading these post for 2 years. I finally signed up,from what I've read you know this stuff inside and out! I,ve wanted to invest in a basement studio for a long time,think I might actually get the money to do this in near future.Boy do I have alot of questions about gear and the busness end.My typing sux so it takes forever,I'm thinking analog console and one ot the new affordable 24 track hard disk recorders,I know there is all sorts of other to consider as well ,but as a start what console and recorder would recomend?
hey sonusman, I've been reading these post for 2 years. I finally signed up,from what I've read you know this stuff inside and out! I,ve wanted to invest in a basement studio for a long time,think I might actually get the money to do this in near future.Boy do I have alot of questions about gear and the busness end.My typing sux so it takes forever,I'm thinking analog console and one ot the new affordable 24 track hard disk recorders,I know there is all sorts of other to consider as well ,but as a start what console and recorder would recomend?
sonusman
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On the console end of things, I would look for quality of quantity. A Soundcraft Ghost LE 24 channel console can be had for probably around $4000-4500. That will smoke the preamps, eq's, and summing amps of either Mackie, Behringer, or that Carvin you are eyeing. I would NOT purchase the Carvin. A friend of mine bought one of their "recording" consoles and the thing is miserable!!! Stick with winners. If the Ghost is out of your price range, think about maybe an Allen & Heath Mix Wizard. Although, they are a bit shy on I/O for my tastes. If you must, a Mackie should be the LOWEST quality console you should consider.
Both the Mackie and Alesis HD systems look promising. Different features and pro's/con's to each. You decide if that is the route you want to go. I would probably favor the Mackie over the Alesis mainly because it actually has a GUI and the Alesis does not.
Good luck.
Ed
Both the Mackie and Alesis HD systems look promising. Different features and pro's/con's to each. You decide if that is the route you want to go. I would probably favor the Mackie over the Alesis mainly because it actually has a GUI and the Alesis does not.
Good luck.
Ed
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Ed,
I know your attraction to the Ghost and don't disagree, if I had a spare $11000 (Australian) plus, I would have one here now, but what about it's predecessor...the Spirit Studio range?
I'm using A Studio 24/8 along with a Fostex D160 H/disk recorder and frankly for a home studio that is still in it's infancy feel that it is fine.
Peace..........ChrisO
I know your attraction to the Ghost and don't disagree, if I had a spare $11000 (Australian) plus, I would have one here now, but what about it's predecessor...the Spirit Studio range?
I'm using A Studio 24/8 along with a Fostex D160 H/disk recorder and frankly for a home studio that is still in it's infancy feel that it is fine.
Peace..........ChrisO
sonusman
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And so it is.....
The Spirit line is okay. I would rather mix on one of them then a mackie or a digital console. But, it sure isn't a Ghost....
Ed
The Spirit line is okay. I would rather mix on one of them then a mackie or a digital console. But, it sure isn't a Ghost....
Ed
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Does that price include a meterbridge.If one were to record direct with outboard preamps,would't that make the console pres of less importance?
Does that price include a meterbridge.If one were to record direct with outboard preamps,would't that make the console pres of less importance?
sonusman
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I don't think a meter bridge would be included. Actually, the meter bridge is RMS and not PEAK metering, so for digital recording, it is sort of worthless.
The preamps ARE important even if you are using outboard pre's for you music tracks. You still have possibly tone modules and effects to return to the console, and having a good pre for those is nice (when you input to a consoles Line Input, you are actually going through the Mic Pre only with a 10-20dB pad applied across it so as not to overload the preamp).
I really don't think you want to mess with the Carvin stuff. Soundcraft and Allen & Heath have very nice sounding, warm, musical eq's and usually very usable preamps. In the case of the Ghost, it is a very quiet console too, and has OUTSTANDING eq's, and a lot of headroom for a console in it's price range, plus, a lot of Aux sends and master section outputs for a variety of things. If you want to be mixing 24 tracks with effects, it is really a fine console, and definately the best console under $10K.
Ed
The preamps ARE important even if you are using outboard pre's for you music tracks. You still have possibly tone modules and effects to return to the console, and having a good pre for those is nice (when you input to a consoles Line Input, you are actually going through the Mic Pre only with a 10-20dB pad applied across it so as not to overload the preamp).
I really don't think you want to mess with the Carvin stuff. Soundcraft and Allen & Heath have very nice sounding, warm, musical eq's and usually very usable preamps. In the case of the Ghost, it is a very quiet console too, and has OUTSTANDING eq's, and a lot of headroom for a console in it's price range, plus, a lot of Aux sends and master section outputs for a variety of things. If you want to be mixing 24 tracks with effects, it is really a fine console, and definately the best console under $10K.
Ed
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Thanks for the insight Ed,that makes sense about the line inputs, I did not know that.I wondered why nobody made a nice affordable line leval mixing console without all the focus on the preamps, with so many people recording direct with outboard pres.I 'll just forget the carvin, that's why I'm asking questions to learn the pros and cons, thanx.
Thanks for the insight Ed,that makes sense about the line inputs, I did not know that.I wondered why nobody made a nice affordable line leval mixing console without all the focus on the preamps, with so many people recording direct with outboard pres.I 'll just forget the carvin, that's why I'm asking questions to learn the pros and cons, thanx.