Can I use Komplete just with Ableton Lite or do I need Standard?

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I ve been using for a few days now ableton trial version and i've decided to stick with that daw. Since i'll be need audio interface in the future, I was thinking to buy focusrite scarlett 2i2 wich comes with Ableton Lite. And then after some time i'll be need some sounds. I was thinking to buy Komplete. So my question is, can I use Komplete just with Lite or do I need first to have Standard?
 
You can use third-party plug-ins with Live Lite. I haven't tried to use Komplete with Live Lite, but if it works with Live Standard then it should work with Live Lite. You can look at the Feature Comparison table to see which features are available in which editions. Live Lite is more or less the same as Live Intro-- there are some differences (else they wouldn't have separate names), but I'm not certain what the differences are, since Lite isn't included in the Feature Comparison table.

https://www.ableton.com/en/live/feature-comparison/
 
On Live Lite, there is some track limitations I think and a few other I can't think of off the top of my head. I like Ableton, and if you are going to use it for its main design, I don't think there is anything out there to beat it. But, if you are going to do traditional style recording, (linear), I highly recommend something else.

The lite version is crippled and Ableton as such a different approach to making music that switching over to something else may be harder. With that said, if you do want to go into Push, APC40 and use those features (grid/scene) for live performance and music making, then there is nothing out there that compares (Bitwig maybe, but I have not heard much from them lately).

Do some homework before you settle on Ableton. I own it and I like it, but the main feature of it I don't use and could have saved some time and money focusing on something else. But it can be a very fun DAW.
 
As long as live lite will run VSTi you are good to go.

My guess though is lite is going to limit internal I/O and some of the instruments inside komplete have multiple output options.
 
Live Lite limits you to 8 tracks, which can be either audio or MIDI-- 8 audio, 8 MIDI, 4 audio plus 4 MIDI, or some other combination of audio and MIDI tracks that add up to 8.
 
Live Lite limits you to 8 tracks, which can be either audio or MIDI-- 8 audio, 8 MIDI, 4 audio plus 4 MIDI, or some other combination of audio and MIDI tracks that add up to 8.

Does that include aux bus type tracks? I have very little experience with live.
 
I don't use Live very much myself, but I was able to add a total of 8 audio and/or MIDI tracks in Live Lite before I got a message that no more tracks could be added. This was in addition to the Reverb and Chorus tracks that are set up by default when you start a new project in Live Lite, so those were counted separately-- i.e., even after I deleted the Reverb and Chorus tracks I still couldn't add more audio or MIDI tracks. So Live Lite is definitely more limited than Live Intro:

Code:
Live Lite     --         8 audio/MIDI tracks --  2 send/return tracks -- 1 master track --         8 scenes --   2 audio inputs --   2 audio outputs
Live Intro    --        16 audio/MIDI tracks --  2 send/return tracks -- 1 master track --         8 scenes --   4 audio inputs --   4 audio outputs
Live Standard -- Unlimited audio/MIDI tracks -- 12 send/return tracks -- 1 master track -- Unlimited scenes -- 256 audio inputs -- 256 audio outputs
Live Suite    -- Unlimited audio/MIDI tracks -- 12 send/return tracks -- 1 master track -- Unlimited scenes -- 256 audio inputs -- 256 audio outputs
 
Yikes.

And that is the reason that even though I am a cubase user, I always just recommend Reaper. $60 for a DAW that isn't borked is a great deal in my opinion.
 
Yikes.

And that is the reason that even though I am a cubase user, I always just recommend Reaper. $60 for a DAW that isn't borked is a great deal in my opinion.

I didn't want to say it because I always do.
 
If for some reason Steinberg ever goes the way of pro tools and starts demanding money every month I will (without hesitation) move to Reaper.

As it stands right now though I don't consider their upgrade structure outrageous and I started on cubase before Reaper was a thing.
 
Just a thought (before ecc83 says it! :) )...

...Ableton focuses quite heavily on MIDI but the Focusrite 2i2 doesn't have MIDI input/outputs. Depending on how you work, this may or may not be an issue but it's at least something to think about
 
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