Can I still post here?

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Seeker of Rock

Let us be unburdened by that which has been ?
This is my favorite forum, but after the continued problems with the MSR I bought an HD24. I still have 9 days left to return to GC, but from a couple of mess around tracks, I don't think I'm going to. Still too early to tell, I guess. The rest of my setup is still analog so I hope you guys don't mind if I still hang out in this forum as opposed to the Alesis forum. I'm still an analog body, just with a bionic recorder now. :)
 
HAH HAH,
I can tell you this: I record analog only on Holy Days (the days when I feel like I am REALLY RECORDING something... which happends less and less... geeeee, like less often than once every three months ... or so), but I do just record something almost every day (well... let's say every week ;) to be more acurate)... keep soft and hard disc drives and lasers warm all the time... LOL (BUT! my digital tape machine is stone cold for years now :p ... it's a museum item :D )
 
Yeah, I hear ya. It is definitely a different sound. Some things better, alot of things worse. But I had to make the purchase at least to see. No more hiss, no more hum, no more problems so far. Of course this was only do to my PARTICULAR machine, but I couldn't justify the finances or risk of taking a chance on another reel machine right now. I was traumatized by Christine. Listen to me waxing poetic. Anyway, if I keep this which I think I will, I will have to deal with the sacrifice of sound. Not that the HD24 sounds bad by any means, just not like tape. At the end of the day, it is all about my tunes I have in my head and recorded on my little Sony cassette recorder and lyrics in my notebooks from many years ago to the present. As long as I get them recorded with good quality, I guess I will be happy. Would rather have had them be to tape, and maybe after some more money is saved and a bigger house where I actually have a room to treat, I'll get one of the 2" machines. Until then, providing everything keeps going well, I think the HD24 is going to be the multitrack. I have decided to keep the MSR though. Now at least I have the time to really look around for someone or some means maybe of fixing the issues, or God forbid, I may take a shot at it myself since it won't be my main machine for awhile. Damn, I really did want an MS-16, or just an MSR-16 that worked right, but that doesn't mean I won't get another tape machine. I'll post some dry samples tonight or tomorrow of the drum kit and maybe get some opinions from you? Like I said before, I have an evil computer hard disk but everything else is still analog (well, without the small fact that the rack reverbs are digital and not reverb tanks, but still outboard units and analog connections). Cool thing is both MSR and HD24 sounds are fresh in my head so I get a good feel, short of direct A/B, for the differences between the two. Two different animals for sure.
 
Seeker of Rock said:
Two different animals for sure.
Yah, what ever .... heh heh :D ;)
How about looking at it like it's different times of the year... D /A ... just keep moving on, the road is the same .... :rolleyes: , well,sort of :D :p
 
hmmmm,
I've said the road is the same... then looked at the picture one more time, and... and I just have to add, that during the digital time the road gets slippery :D
 
... and so to keep going without breaking your neck you'd have to 'spice' it with sand, salt and crap like that :D
 
Sure, you can still post here... at least until the "Digital Only" forum is up and running. :D
 
Seeker of Rock said:
I hope you guys don't mind if I still hang out in this forum

Nope, get out! Your kind is not wanted here!!! :mad:

(kidding of course :D :D ;) ;) )
 
Dude...

Is that the one that connects to your PC using an ethernet cable??

That shit is dope, yo...

if it is, i read you can transfer the files into your PC for editing, and then transfer them back for mixdown. that's pretty sweet....
 
Dr ZEE said:
hmmmm,
I've said the road is the same... then looked at the picture one more time, and... and I just have to add, that during the digital time the road gets slippery :D

Agreed :D The "saturation" of drums onto tape is what I miss most, and I've only recorded drums onto either so far, because that is the logical starting point...get the drums right and then I'll move on to bass, guitar, vocals, and finally dulcimer. Just kidding about the last one, but I did watch Cyndi Lauper in concert on cable and her dulcimer sounds pretty cool. Not something you see everyday. :) In contrast, the HD24 sounds pretty much exactly like what is coming out of the DM Pro. Hopefully the board adds a little analog something, but no "saturated" sound, which the DM Pro being digital really needs. Gonna to try and add a little "salt and sand" via Joemeek units I have. They did wonders when I tracked "Wild-Eyed Jim's" on the 488MKII. Snare needs a little compression out of the box and toms as well. Cymbal samples, at least the crash, is already compressed quite a bit, and this is inherent in the samples. Just remembered too, a good A/B is that I already have a post of the MSR srums on my site, so when I post the HD drums next to it, I can open them up and do a good A/B, even though the MSR drums were not a great example because of the hum and hot levels, still the character is there to compare.
Digital Only thread, LOL. :D :D :D Thanks but no thanks. I think Dave (ARP) said it best last year when he went in to a local store to mess around with one of the tabletop studios in a box. He said it was a pain flipping though pages and screens just to move a pan slightly more to the left or a hi frequency down a hair. Most of this is based on time anyway for me. Not impulsively, well maybe so, but it loses its freshness in my ears after a couple of seconds of what I want to do. Same with outboard gear. Maybe I just suck enough of a player at my instruments that I am constantly making corrections and tweaks at mixdown and can rarely just set everything to their point and not feel the need to adjust along the way. Like when I come back in on vocals for a new verse and I was standing a little further back from the mic or a little more left of the mic or lost a little of the "ooomph" in my voice delivery I had the verse before and have to adjust. Oh yeah, and the "cut, copy, and paste" features I don't think will ever be used either. I would rather record the part "live" and if it doesn't sound just like the line before it, the better.

Quick question on cords. I've read up a bit, but with no real definitive answer and maybe there isn't one. First time in my equipment that I have balanced ins and outs on the recorder and the ins/outs on the Mackie are balanced as well. I plan to run 10' length of cables, so not excessively long, but should I absolutely use balanced cables or will unbalanced cables thus converting the connections from balanced to unbalanced affect anything? I am running balanced right now but they are "temporary" cables. That part of the return policy I will take advantage of, but just bought them because that is what GC had in stock and I needed to test run this thing. I've heard that balanced connections help reduce hum in the chain, but that hum usually only occurs on long cable runs. Any experience or advice you could offer?
I'll put the drum samples up a little later today, dry without any outboard effects on them, so maybe you guys could give a listen and possibly some recommendations.
 
Seeker of Rock said:
Hopefully the board adds a little analog something, but no "saturated" sound, which the DM Pro being digital really needs.
You could try running it through a 32 on an insert (although you'll need to tweak because of latency - one of the advantages, I guess, with doing it with Audition (gotta get me that new version) or Protools.

Seeker of Rock said:
I plan to run 10' length of cables, so not excessively long, but should I absolutely use balanced cables or will unbalanced cables thus converting the connections from balanced to unbalanced affect anything?
If you can run balanced-balanced I'd lean towards that, even if you're looking at shortish cable runs. Normally you'd get away with that 3.3m run of unbalanced, but given that we never did get to the bottom of your hum problems balanced might just be easier. Could be a good time to learn how to solder up leads if you don't do you own already :)
 
Seeker of Rock said:
This is my favorite forum, but after the continued problems with the MSR I bought an HD24. I still have 9 days left to return to GC, but from a couple of mess around tracks, I don't think I'm going to. Still too early to tell, I guess. The rest of my setup is still analog so I hope you guys don't mind if I still hang out in this forum as opposed to the Alesis forum. I'm still an analog body, just with a bionic recorder now. :)


Now that you have a real machine, you may want to lose these wankers and hang out at Pro Sound Web. You will get much more useful information and not be lead around by a bunch of retarded analog old-timers who will never better any shakey skills they may have ever had.
 
MCI2424 said:
Now that you have a real machine, you may want to lose these wankers and hang out at Pro Sound Web. You will get much more useful information and not be lead around by a bunch of retarded analog old-timers who will never better any shakey skills they may have ever had.

cuz we just LOOOVE chinese mics that cost $4 and "sound like a noimann"!

oh...wait....you were kidding...right?
 
hey! whats your point??? I was actually following that thread...
 
Dr ZEE said:
LOL :D
hah hah
When following the snake in the desert at moonless night, may I suggest SUREFIRE

How do I get more negative rep power than you?

HOW did you beat me?

What is your secret, Dr. ZEE?
 
FALKEN said:
cuz we just LOOOVE chinese mics that cost $4 and "sound like a noimann"!

oh...wait....you were kidding...right?

Yes. Now you finally got a clue.

10 points.
 
MCI2424 said:
How do I get more negative rep power than you?

HOW did you beat me?

What is your secret, Dr. ZEE?
I'll tip you on this one for free :)
Here you go: "To get more speeding tickets - forget about road signs and never look at speedometer"
...enjoy the ride :D
.....
oh, BUT! Just watch for THIS ONE That one may hurt :D :eek:
 
Dr ZEE said:
...by reading through or taking a part in highly intelligent discussions LIKE THIS ONE , learn something new every day at PRO!-soundingWeb. :D :rolleyes: :D
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Hey, MCI, it's time to party, hit me, baby:
"Oh-Ah, Girls! I am So Pro - I can't help Myself."

:D :D :D


This is the million dollar attitude... :rolleyes: ..from that thread


"If nothing else, console yourself by considering the marketplace. Who will benefit by your use of tape? Is the average .mp3 player going to "show" the difference? Is the average .mp3 "playee" going to care? When I "digitize" my 4x5 film, sted of just doing a digital snap and send a pic out in an email, who will know? Who will care? "

Just not all that "consoling" to me. I think Moses Avalon is right. That music is just going to become "wallpaper" in the future.
 
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