Can I record Electric Drums with this?

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i own the firepod (pretty much the same thing for less) and it is not midi capable. if your electric drum kit only has midi outs then no you can not.
 
Both Firepod and Firestudio are midi-capable.

See specs from that site . . . note the bold text:

High-Speed FireWire (IEEE 1394) Audio Interface
Up to 96K Sampling Rate
8 XMAX Class A Microphone Preamplifiers (+60dB gain) w/ Trim Control
8 Analog Mic/Line Inputs, 2 Instrument Inputs
8 Analog Line Outputs
S/PDIF Digital Input and Output, MIDI Input and Output
Balanced Send / Return for Channels 1 and 2
Zero Latency Monitoring with FireControl Mixer/Router
Separate Balanced Main Outputs and 8 Balanced Analog Outputs
Daisy-chain multiple FireStudio Project’s and FireStudio Tube’s (see instructions)
Mac and Windows compatible
FREE PreSonus Studio One Artist recording and production software

That means you can record the midi from your electronic drum kit, or use midi to play your kit.

I also own a Firepod, and if it is not midi-capable then I must have been fantasizing all this time while using midi.
 
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They (Firepod & Firestudio) both have MIDI. I own or have owned both.




If you just want to record MIDI, there are a lot cheaper options. You could get a MIDI interface or just a MIDI/USB cable.
 
dastrick said:
If you just want to record MIDI, there are a lot cheaper options. You could get a MIDI interface or just a MIDI/USB cable.
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I don't have to record MIDI I just chose that, what other way is there to record electric drums? I am open to any possiblities if they are better or/and easier.
 
You can record two audio inputs (guitars, vocals, bass, your drums etc..) as well as the midi coming from your drums.

If you think that two inputs might restrict you just go for the firestudio project. Do your drums have individual outs for snare, kick, toms etc.? If so you may want to record those to individual tracks.
 
Back to the OP's original request:

Nugagerube said:
http://www.presonus.com/products/Detail.aspx?ProductId=43


I want to buy this, it looks neat but I don't think it is MIDI capable, is there any other way I can record electric drums on it? Or is it MIDI capable and I am just blind?
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The Presonus will allow you to record an electronic drum kit's midi. And then to use this (or other) midi to play the kit.

It will also allow you to record the kit's audio output.

It provides eight audio inputs. You can use these to record drum parts separately if the kit has separate outputs for each drum.

You can also record guitars, vocals or any other audio source.

So it would seem well suited to your purposes.
 
TetraFish said:
You can record two audio inputs (guitars, vocals, bass, your drums etc..) as well as the midi coming from your drums.

If you think that two inputs might restrict you just go for the firestudio project. Do your drums have individual outs for snare, kick, toms etc.? If so you may want to record those to individual tracks.
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I don't see any point in using individual outs(which no v-drums have as far as I'm aware) to record to to individual tracks. The whole purpose of recording th
is way is to simplify the process by recording the midi data.

The Presonus has 8 inputs, as well as midi in/out (click "features" when you visit the page). So you should be able to record 8 instruments as well as the midi data all simultaneously.
 
TetraFish said:
You can record two audio inputs (guitars, vocals, bass, your drums etc..) as well as the midi coming from your drums.
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Can I record two audio inputs and MIDI on my drums all at the same time?

TetraFish said:
If you think that two inputs might restrict you just go for the firestudio project. Do your drums have individual outs for snare, kick, toms etc.? If so you may want to record those to individual tracks.
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I have to plug each individual pad into a different plug-in on my module so I think that means they have individual outputs. If i can record my drum parts individually won't I need the Firestudio Project and not the AudioBox USB?
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I Got Riffs said:
I don't see any point in using individual outs(which no v-drums have as far as I'm aware) to record to to individual tracks. The whole purpose of recording th
is way is to simplify the process by recording the midi data.
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Exactly. You record the full kit's midi, fix up any funny bits, balance the assorted kit elements, play back the midi into the kit, and record the kit's audio output as a single stereo track.

I Got Riffs said:
The Presonus has 8 inputs, as well as midi in/out (click "features" when you visit the page). So you should be able to record 8 instruments as well as the midi data all simultaneously.
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I'll just change your last sentence to: "So you will be able to record 8 instruments as well as the midi data all simultaneously."
 
gecko zzed said:
Exactly. You record the full kit's midi, fix up any funny bits, balance the assorted kit elements, play back the midi into the kit, and record the kit's audio output as a single stereo track.
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What does "play the midi back into the kit" mean? And I don't think my kit has an audio output.
 
Nugagerube said:
What does "play the midi back into the kit" mean? And I don't think my kit has an audio output.
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I think you're lacking a basic understanding of midi. Midi is NOT sound or Audio. It is only data. Data that would tell a sound source what notes to play. If you record Midi, you need a sound source to play the audio/sound/music. This is what Gecko is suggesting to you...

Record the midi, fix the mistakes, make changes, etc... then play the midi data back into your e-drums and record the audio out so you can hear the snare, hi-hat, kick, etc...

The other option is to record the midi then use a VSTi like ezdrummer to generate the sounds. Something like ezdrummer will probably have better samples than the onboard sound source of your eDrums. Make sense???

Or the most obvious solution is to just play the drums and record the audio and not even worry about midi.

hope this helps...
 
Nugagerube said:
What does "play the midi back into the kit" mean? And I don't think my kit has an audio output.
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I think you have some reading to do.

Your homework is:

1 Do some research on Midi and find out roughly how it works.

2 Read the manual for your 'electric drums'. The kit will have an audio output.
 
I Got Riffs said:
I don't see any point in using individual outs(which no v-drums have as far as I'm aware) to record to to individual tracks. The whole purpose of recording th
is way is to simplify the process by recording the midi data.

The Presonus has 8 inputs, as well as midi in/out (click "features" when you visit the page). So you should be able to record 8 instruments as well as the midi data all simultaneously.
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Yup, You can get individual outs. Some people like to be able to mix snare, toms, kick individually. Just making sure that isn't his intention.

And no thats not the whole idea, That would drive my drummer nuts. We use it because you can control the volume and it's a hell of a lot easier to record audio from v-drums than it is trying to mic everything. Plus there a lot easier to move around.

There is no need for an 8 input unit if he only wants to record 2 or less at a time. Unless he has money to burn.
 
gecko zzed said:
I think you have some reading to do.

Your homework is:

1 Do some research on Midi and find out roughly how it works.

2 Read the manual for your 'electric drums'. The kit will have an audio output.
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Ha-ha okay I will do that. Once I get the interface I will probably understand what you guys are saying better.
 
I have a new question that has arised and I figure I can just ak it on here instead of making another thread; When recording on MIDI can you use the voice the drum modules has or do you need to use the voices of drums the software has. I ask because I've heard people say I need to replace the MIDI part (after recording it) with drum voices and I was wondering if I could use my drum modules voices.
 
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