cad m179 mic

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Yesterday I went out & bought the mic for 200$ and Im wondering
is it good for vocals or drums or did I make the wrong choice
cause I really bought it for vocals .
 
Should have checked the free adds.........Someone is selling one foe $125.
https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=211049

I have 2 of them and It is a great mic for vocals.
I think it is my most versatile mic, It seems to work on a lot of things.

Warhead likes them on toms. I am thinking of getting a 3rd one so I can try them out on toms.
 
slowgin said:
Yesterday I went out & bought the mic for 200$ and Im wondering
is it good for vocals or drums or did I make the wrong choice
cause I really bought it for vocals .
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I really think this is one of the best budget mics you can buy. While I don't think it has a particularly "flattering" sound for vocals, it is quite neutral sounding and works well for just about anything. I use it for most of my background vocals, many times on acoustic guitar, as a room mic, and even as a mono drum overhead. I haven't found anything that I "hate" it on yet. A good purchase.
 
i think the m179 has a sonic signature that can be really good on the right vocal but the vocal has to be up front in the mix for that signature to come thru. after finding it's sweet spot, i loved using it for folk type singing with an acoustic guitar. it can have a kind of swirly majic sound, that reminds me of using a kickass first position tube in a guitar tube amp, if you find the sweet spot. it's kind of subtle, but definately apparent. too bad it get's lost in a mix easily.

in a busy mix, for vocal or guitar, i think it comes off as being bland. i never got the chance to try my ex m179 as an overhead.
 
I've found that if you use this mic and accompany it with a wide-Q boost of a few db's at exactly 800 hz ... you get this really kickass, up-front pop vocal sound out of it. It has a cool resonance to it around that frequency (might be what Travis is refering to), and it can sound pretty cool if you bring it out a little ... so long as you don't overdo (unless you're shooting for a specific effect).

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i wish i still had my m179. i'd like to try that and see if that quality would come thru. btw, the sound i'm talking about reminds me alot of some of the slower vocal stuff on Wilco's album Being There.
 
I have the M177 (cardioid only version) and on acoustic instruments is it the bomb! (Ok, I'm too old to say that! :rolleyes: )

After learning some interesting tricks with other multi-pattern mics I know that soon one or two 179s will be in my arsenal soon!
 
I have a set of CAD M177's.
They're a great mic for the price. Very natural sounding. I've used them in a wide range of applications and am usually quite pleased with the results.
I found that they sound really good as LDC overheads for drums.
They are also superb (I mean that) on very quiet sources. These mics have a lot of gain on 0dB pad. And they have very low self noise.
The -20dB pad is really useful. Because on really loud sources it can clip and distort. But with the pad on it gets rid of that distortion. When this mic has internal clipping, it isn't pretty at all!
Also, be sure to get a shock mount. These mics pick up subsonics like you wouldn't believe. You don't want to be forced into using the rolloff unless you need to.
So if the single capsule m177 is this useful, I can only imagine how useful the m179 is.
 
tarnationsauce2 said:
The -20dB pad is really useful. Because on really loud sources it can clip and distort. But with the pad on it gets rid of that distortion. When this mic has internal clipping, it isn't pretty at all!
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That's not the sound of the mic distorting. It's your mic pre. And it's telling you that it doesn't have enough headroom. :D

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slowgin said:
Yesterday I went out & bought the mic for 200$ and Im wondering
is it good for vocals or drums or did I make the wrong choice
cause I really bought it for vocals .
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How does it sound on drums or vocals at your place? I wouldn't worry about what we care...if you own one you should listen to it.

War :D
 
chessrock said:
That's not the sound of the mic distorting. It's your mic pre. And it's telling you that it doesn't have enough headroom. :D

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Well I assumed its the mic since it has the same clipping sound no matter what pre I use them on.
It's almost like digital distortion.
I've witnessed this sound on UA610, VTP-1, Soundtracs SOLO, and on Mackie 8 bus. Lol I just tried it with the SOLO and 8 bus. I patched it into my DAW to see the waveform as well, and they are comparable. It seems to do it most on loud subsonic plosives easily. Bassdrum is what I just tried it on. That's with the gains all the way down.

OK for kicks I just hooked up my o-scope to the cable running directly from the mic and I show the same clipping. I'm sure that that mic couldn't possibly overload the Fluke scope. Though I did have the cable plugged into the console too to get phantom power. I guess it is possible that the input on the console is loading the mic down. I'll have to look for a phantom power box to be conclusive.
 
Tarnation, I think your mic might be busted. It really shouldn't be clipping. Those things have pretty high SPL ... I can't think of many things that occur naturally that could clip a mic like that. :D

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chessrock said:
Tarnation, I think your mic might be busted. It really shouldn't be clipping. Those things have pretty high SPL ... I can't think of many things that occur naturally that could clip a mic like that. :D

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I bet it's the mic. I have some older CAD E-100s, I have to keep the -20 pad on almost all the time, or they clip very easily even with only moderately loud sources. The SPL rating is with the pad engaged, it seems.
 
chessrock said:
Tarnation, I think your mic might be busted. It really shouldn't be clipping. Those things have pretty high SPL ... I can't think of many things that occur naturally that could clip a mic like that. :D

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I can. The piercing frequencies of a line6 amp can do a pretty good job at it.
 
I use a pair of m179's all the time for drum oh. It can also deliver a good kick sound out in front of the kit. Its freq response goes down to like 10hz so it thumps your chest. I have used it successfully for vox and acoustic guitar as well. Not my first vocal choice now that I have others, but totally acceptable. Good buy.
 
lancebug said:
It can also deliver a good kick sound out in front of the kit.
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Lately my favorite sound on my personal kit is a pair of ATM450 overhead in ORTF and a CAD M179 on outer kick. It totally delivers in this position, and when you dial it into hypercardioid it's amazing how little bleed is picked up.

War
 
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