breaking, fixing an EV PL20 / RE20

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Hi there
Not sure if this will be of much value, but I personally rely heavily on seeing stuff like this on forums and couldn't find a ton of info when I looked...

I bought a used PL20 today off craigslist. Very excited to record instruments and voice with it. Got it home, listened to it and loved what I heard. Then I started messing with a perfectly good mic and... broke it. I twisted the bottom thinking it would unscrew like other mics I've tinkered with, but instead I twisted the XLR leads with it until they snapped from their solder posts.

Reasonable questions to me might be "why mess with it if it works??" or, "after a couple turns with no threading-out, why keep spinning it?!?" I know, I know. Clearly a dumb move, learned another lesson, one more thing I've broken that I have to fix (and risk making worse).

I'm posting this stuff because I didn't see much in the way of pictures for this mic assembly, and there seems to be some confusion over how to take it apart and what size hex wrenches etc. If you already know all this, sorry for the redundant info, go ahead and stop reading now...

The bottom section of the mic is essentially held together by two screws: a set-screw that keeps the xlr pins in place, and a hex bolt that keeps the bottom end of the mic fastened. First you unscrew the set screw. To free it, you screw counterclockwise, since the screw is reverse threaded this moves it down so it can slide out. I nudged the xlr piece out a bit using the screwdriver in the same set screw hole, then pulled it out gently with my fingers. If it were stuck you could try pliers but careful not to squeeze to hard and damage or crimp the xlr pins.

here's a pic of the set screw:
lock screw.webp

and the manual image showing the disassembly
manual disassembly.webp

To me the manual is sort of confusing because there is also a tiny round notch that holds the mic stand adapter in place that I initially confused for a teeny tiny set screw (the set screw for the cage at the top of the mic is really small, I read somewhere that is it 0.9 mm but I can't verify that). Really though if I had read the manual with a bit more patience it would have been clear.

So, after the xlr piece slides out, you can see the bolt that holds the bottom of the mic together (noted C in the manual diagram). I tried quite a few hex wrenches before I found the right size. I used a 9/64 wrench, a 3.5mm wrench should probably work too but my cheap one just didn't fit. I'm pretty sure it's metric so I was careful with the 9/64 wrench..

bottom screw.webp

And here's what I had done by spinning the bottom around:

pieces.webp

The wires from the xlr pins can be attached to different posts to achieve different impedance. The green wire always goes to the same terminal, and the red goes to one of three terminals depending on what impedance you're after (actually printed in the plastic by each post). The mic comes stock at 150 ohms, and that's where I wanted to put it back. The different posts are shown in this shot from the manual:

manual impedence.webp

And here's my mic:

top view 2.webp

And, after soldering the wires back in place:

back together.webp


And the success shot, blurry mic with barely noticeable meters moving in the background:

meters.webp

It works again!!! Happy. Sounds like I have some degrading foam around the capsule to look forward to in the coming years - at the moment it's in fine shape and does not produce any rattle or thump when moved. I'll put up pics of that repair or preventative action when/if I do it.
 

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Nice work Boyd X3.

You think you can fix the baby rattle syndrome of a RE20?
 
maybe?

Thanks Moresound
from what I understand there's a couple versions of the baby rattle syndrome with the PL20 / RE20, the easy one and the hard one. The easy one is a mic with deteriorating foam around the capsule, which can be removed, cleaned and replaced. The harder one I know much less about, when the foam is still in tact (or not) but something is loose below the capsule, where things are much harder to access. I haven't disassembled it to that level, but if my own mic had that problem I'd give it a try disassembling and troubleshooting - unfortunately I wouldn't recommend someone giving me their mic as a test subject.. that may change with experience.
 
Yeah ... mine is the harder one scenario and I've dismantled it to a point and dare not go further. May be an EV factory fix.
 
Great reforming picture tutor!

I still need to fix the baby rattle syndrome though.






Goodbye Jon. :(
 
Well, I don't have that mic. But I love pictures of disassembled stuff!

Breaking something once is a mistake. Hey, that's how we learn, right? Break it twice and you start to progress along the the stupidity spectrum! :cool:

Paul
 
Hi guys!

I know this is an older one but was pointed out to me by a friend and customer.

I'm attaching the exploded view of the older RE/PL 20 microphone. (edit; it won't let me attach as it's too big but email and I can send it) They have changed some several times over the years, and the current ones are quite a different monster altogether, but for the most part the document will show how to disassemble and put it back together.

Regarding 'baby rattle syndrome':

There are 2 types that I see as a common mode failure.

-the first is when the foam supports have failed or start to crumble. This allows the element to freely bounce around inside the case. Not a good thing.

-the second is when the pole piece under the diaphragm comes free from the alnico magnet it was previously adhered to. What happens is that the plastic disc bounces around within the voice coil underneath of the diaphragm. It translates as distortions and buzzing on fast transients and high SPL sources ie kick and bass. On normal speaking and voice applications it's quite possible it goes unnoticed until the microphone is 'handled' and a slight plastic 'clicky' sound is heard.

It's possible to refurbish the microphone suffering either problem.

If you'd like to discuss in more detail feel free to drop an email

ben@micdaddy.com

I am the former service tech for electro-voice microphones.

I am a true DIY'er at heart and an active member at groupdiy if you would like to tackle your mic and I can give any advice please shoot over an email.

BTW the set screw in the top/front grille at the address end is 0.035" hex. I get asked this a lot ;)
 
Hey MicDaddy! Great to have you on board.

You have to have at least 10 post here at H.R. to be able to post an attachment. Do that quickly and get bach here to help some of us out!!
 
Nice to see both of you here! :)

The rest of us are going to take a few weeks off now.
 
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