BRC hookup to Computer/ADAT

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Tell me exactly what all of your equipment is. I need to know what kind of soundcard you are using, etc....

Also, I need to know exactly how you have it hooked up, in's and out's, etc....Also, what is the time piece master and what is slaving, and whether the slave components are configured to slave, and if the BRC is set as master.

Ed
 
O.k. I only have (1)ADAT, but I will soon get another one, now the delemma is: BRC is connected to computer interface Midi in/out, now when I press play on the BRC to play ADAT
it glitches like: ff/play lights up and the numbers go back and forth.

Now I disconnect the Midi in/out from the BRC
it works fine. Objective: to use BRC to control CUBASE & ADAT, so that I can mix my songs down to ADAT, I've tried the JL Cooper with not much success getting the computer synched with the ADAT, so I got the BRC and now I'm faced with this ---- any answers as to what to do
 
set-up: Cubase VST/JV1080/Planet Phatt/ASR10 all connected via midi to the Microexpress 4inx6out, now on the BRC it (WAS)connected via midi in&out (but being I didnt have an extra in, I had to use a midi patchbay 2x8)
I only had 2 outs left on express, so I went:
out express into--in patchbay, then out patchbay in express

I dont think the compenents are set to slave
cause (I) have not done that yet, I was confused by the (ADAT glitch effect)so I didnt get there yet -- anyway I suppose I am to use the BRC as the master and slave the microexpress & Computer/Cubase & ADAT
---is that right, I hope this explains somewhat of my set up oh! and I have 20x8 Fostex mixer --
 
Here is the skinny. You can only have one time code master. That's it, nothing else. In your case, the BRC should be it. It will output MTC, ADAT synce, etc....all at the same time and in unison (meaning that is is relational, meaning that MTC actually uses SMPTE as it's time code and the SMPTE is calculated from the ADAT 48K word clock). ADAT's like to be masters in any sync situation, so be it.

Make sure that the BRC is not in EXT SYNC mode.

You only need to output midi from the BRC to your mide input to the computer. Do not return the midi to the BRC because it is not needed, the BRC is creating the clock for your software to run.

Your software needs to be put into EXTERNAL SYNC mode. I don't know how you do that with what you have, but it should have a way to do this. The MIDI IN port on your soundcard/midi card needs to be configured as a MIDI IN. Many different cards supply ports that you can configure.

You need to make sure that the BRC is outputting MTC on the right MIDI channel. This is easy to set. Go to the MIDI/UTIL button and press it until you get the MIDI Device menu on the LCD then set it for whatever channel you are going to use. Your software needs to be configured to accept this channel as the incoming Time Code it is going to use, meaning it needs to be on the same MIDI channel.

The BRC needs to be set to Generate Sync, which is done with the GEN/SYNC buttom. You need to edit this feature to output MTC. Press the EDIT bottom, then the GEN/SYNC bottom until you get MIDI:, then use the uppercase and lowercase buttons to select MTC then exit.

If your software and hardware on the computer is configured right, your computer will now sync to the ADAT relative to SMPTE. Of course you are probably aware of SMPTE Offset and all that so I won't go into that.

Also, if your software will do what I think is called Dynamic Sequencing (where it starts the song at the point of where the incoming SMPTE time code is) then you can cut down on sync time be engaging the Output Rew/FF under the MIDI/Util button on the BRC.

If you are still having problems, then post again.

Ed
 
Sonusman ---

Thanks for the intricate detail in setting this up, I will go home tonight and sort this out. My drive for doing music has come to an ultimatum, I'm considering resigning from my job (I'm in advertising) I've been in the music business for 10 yrs till my label (EMI) folded so I had to get back in this work force, but I'll be damned, this is not working for me, 9--5, then studio at night, writing songs and such, I gotta find somethings else.

Well once again thanks for the info, and I will work on your observation on this matter

Thanks very much, If I dont post for a while that means I'm looking for another job -- till then "All musicians" PLAY ON & ROCK ON
 
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