BR1600 CD/BR900 CD Recording Techniques

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What other ways are there to record/assemble tracks on either the 1600 or the 900 besides straight on linear?(which I've come to hate)Would the looping function help with assembling the recording in smaller pieces?Does either machine have any editing capabilities?Anything else I should know?

The reason I ask about *both* is because I'm thinking about purchasing one or the other at some point.

Thank you!

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Yes you can use the loop function to create tracks, you can also create tracks by cut and paste/insert on all tracks. There is plenty of editing capabilities on the BR1600.
For obvious reasons the BR1600 gives you more tracks for recording, more expensive than the 900 but for the small difference in price there is a large difference in capabilities.

If you need more info let me know and I will run through a lot of the features of the BR1600.
 
You can cut and paste/insert on ALL tracks on the 1600?
Wow!

I thought the VS series were the only beasts capable of such a manuever...

If it helps any,I was a big fan of the Alesis MMT-8 Hardware Sequencer,back in the day.It would let me work in whatever size chunks I wanted to either with the click or not.Then,I would hit "song mode" and string the patterns together-it was pretty easy stuff and I wish Alesis would update the MMT-8 for the now(MMT-16 anyone?)

There is only one bad thing I have heard about the 1600-it uses a Maxtor HD which a lot of people on differing boards claim is just absolute *trash*.Is this true or false?

Thanks for your continued help!
 
Yes they use the Maxtor, so far I have had no problems with the hard drive, what I do regularly is to back up important data just in case, a pain in the ass but a safeguard none the less.

Regarding the BR1600, Tracks 9/10 are used for bouncedown and Mastering, 11/12 for loop phrases, 13/14 for the onboard Bass loops, 15/16 for the drum programming. However you can select any of these stereo tracks for recording anything you like, you don't necessarily have to use these tracks for the dedication Roland have selected.
 
Br-1600

Hi,
Although I've been playing for 20+ years, I'm totally new to homestudio recording so if you could explain in simple steps I'd appreciate it.

I'd love to know how to put the drum loops together. The manual isn't easy for me to understand at all. I've been to the drum loops area, heard them listened to them, but they last only a minute or so. How do you lengthen them?

Do yo have to chart out the entire drum part first and them count the measures and put in the fills and things? Can you record the instruments and them manully add the drums in real time later?

If you could explain how to manually create simple shuffle loops in real time and how to put them together to make a full song that's be great. I've tried, but failed miserably.

I had a thousand other question, but for now that would be a great help!

Thanks

Slepey Eddie James
 
Hey Sleepie Eddie,

This is a step by step of how I create drum tracks using the preset patterns,

1. Push edit while the red arrangement light is off, then use the cursor buttons to scroll across to the drums: P then pattern No.
2. Scroll through the patterns and write down what patterns I want to use, listen to each pattern by pressing play, you can scroll through while they are playing, letting you listen to each pattern.
3. Press exit.
4. Press arrangement so the red light comes on.
5. Press edit.
6. Press F4.
7. Measure 1 should be highlighted.
8. Press the cursor down and use the Time/Value dial to scroll through the Patterns.
9. When the Pattern is selected scroll across to Length and use the Time/Value dial to select the amount of measures. (Sometimes if you select a length of 1 measure it may not be long enough to cover the whole pattern)
10. Press the cursor up which takes you back to Measures, then scroll through the measures until the next blank measure and repeat Steps 8-10.

I hope this helps, I am currently learning how to create my own patterns using Real Time Recording.

When you create a pattern in Real Time you create a pattern of a cetrain time length, then save it as a user pattern. If you want to loop that pattern when you arrange a drum track using the above steps you enter the user pattern you created and select the amount of measures you want.

See how you go and let me know, I will help with anything if I can.

Good Luck!! :) :)
Kev
 
Loops

Thanks a lot!! Everyone seems very friendly and helpful here. I appreciate it!

I'll give your suggestion a try today.

So what I'm hearing you not say, but imply is that I should know exactly how long I want the song to be, so I can make loops to fill in all the measures while I'm repeating steps 8-10.

Can I use that CD they included in the version2 for drum sounds for this too?
 
Yes, basically what I do is construct a drum track by playing along on guitar to make sure that the length in measures fits what I play on guitar. If it needs to be longer or shorter I adjust. Just go along and add your fills and verses etc.

Another little pointer: You can use any pattern anywhere in your song, just because a particular pattern may be called a verse or fill you can use a verse pattern as a fill pattern if you so desire. I quite often use a couple of intro patterns as fills etc. You don't have to use 1 particular group of patterns in your song,
eg: Intro may be a rock pattern, verse may be a ballad pattern, outro may be a pop pattern.

The CD for version 2 will add a few drum patterns and Bass guitar and an improved version of vocal tools. (I take it you are talking about the upgrade CD)

The CD for the drums can be downloaded into the BR1600 for use but I have not done this myself yet.


I hope I haven't confused you,
I hope this helps.
Kev
 
Hi!

I am new here, You can call me Jojje or JJ :)
I am 19 years old, from Finland.
have been playing guitar about 6-7 years now.

Yesterday I got my Boss BR-900 CD, it ROCKS!!
I am a total Newbie on homerecording, but I will learn :cool:
 
The Discrete Drums that on the CD are already loaded in the BR-1600 as loops. If you ever have to wipe the harddrive, you would lose all loops including the Discrete Durm loops, it provided as a back-up.
 
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