Bottom line: VTB-1 is good enough for me.

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I've spent many, many hours reading reviews, posts, listening to sound clips, and really listening to my own stuff and just putting on the headphones to hear what's coming through...

Not only that, I've been literally stalking websites and ebay ready to make a purchase of a high-brow preamp, with a blessing from my wife to spend $1,500 or so, more than twice my original budget.

But, gee, guys and gals, for what I'm doing -- acoustic folk with steel guitar, fiddle, dobro, mandolin, accordian, bass guitar and simple snare/kick, which does require good, clean gain, the VTB-1 is incredible, really. No distortion and basically just room noise when I've got it cranked all the way up to 60 db. Yeah, it's not as impressive as a bigger, full-rack pre that's more expensive-looking and maybe some more knobs, but it does what I want from it. You have no idea how I wanted to come to the conclusion that it wasn't good enough, that I should get something "better" (more expensive).

To my ears, it doesn't color and is incredibly clean at 60 db gain, so why would I want to spend more money for the same thing? Most pres only go up to 60 db, with some going up to 65/68. I think it was the Avalon I looked at last night that tops at 60 db -- and how much cleaner can you get than what seems cleanest?

I bought my VTB-1 when they first came out based on Harvey's review of one. He sold me on it, and upon reflection, nothing's changed since then -- just some extra money burning a hole in my pocket. It's a hard concept that maybe I don't need more equipment...just get down to making good music. Now I've got nothing to blame, except my own bad recording! That's scary...maybe I'll reconsider that Grace...

I'm not trying to rain on anybody's parade who has a Grace, Sytek, Great River, Focusrite, Avalon, or any really nice pre that's built with A-list parts. There's gotta be Porches and there's gotta be Plymouths. My Plymouth is a nice ride and it gets me where I'm going (and actually with better gas mileage than the Porshce).

The only thing I need to do now is buy another VTB-1, thus getting my dual-pre. (I've got a VC3Q for color, if needed).
 
I said the same thing when I bought my Focusrite VMP, that was three pre amps ago. If you like what ya got and don't have the GAS, good for you, man. For myself, having twenty guitars and knowing full well I can only play one at a time, I still like to have the options that more and different give me
 
Owned one myself and sold it because for some crazy reason I thought my recording days were over. Ha! It sounded magnificent to me and I'm planning on buying another one soon. Good sound and a great company. Speaking of which (I'll be brief), have a Studio Projects B1 mic and shock mount. One of the elastic bands on the shock mount came apart. Tried to fix it to no avail. I emailed SP, and got an email back from Justin Hyatt @ SP....within a week I had two new replacement bands for the mic. Nuff said.

Warren
 
I can't get myself to spend big bucks on gear, or anything. I'd rather compare and buy a bunch of cheap stuff. The cheap stuff has come a long long way and now it's just really low priced affordable stuff, not really 'cheap.' I get some hiss, some noise here or there, but I learn to work around it and do stuff like get closer to a mic, lower the preamp gain, up the trim on the recorder a bit, make my own super high quality cables that I coldn't afford if I bought them assembled,.... I could go on.

I have 2 pre's that are $99, the Art and the Presonus. If there was the VTB1 in a local store, I'd have gotten that for sure. Sometimes, time is a consideration and this time it was.

for the price of 1/4th of a 'pro' mic, I have 10 and they all have different curves and I learned how they sound and how to get the best out of them, even the ecm8000. In 6 weeks I learned a lot.....
 
Yea, I'll give it maybe a year tops before we see it listed on ebay. :D You can run, but you can't hide, from GAS. It'll get ya one way or another.
 
Bodhisan said:
I've spent many, many hours reading reviews, posts, listening to sound clips, and really listening to my own stuff and just putting on the headphones to hear what's coming through...

Not only that, I've been literally stalking websites and ebay ready to make a purchase of a high-brow preamp, with a blessing from my wife to spend $1,500 or so, more than twice my original budget.

But, gee, guys and gals, for what I'm doing -- acoustic folk with steel guitar, fiddle, dobro, mandolin, accordian, bass guitar and simple snare/kick, which does require good, clean gain, the VTB-1 is incredible, really. No distortion and basically just room noise when I've got it cranked all the way up to 60 db. Yeah, it's not as impressive as a bigger, full-rack pre that's more expensive-looking and maybe some more knobs, but it does what I want from it. You have no idea how I wanted to come to the conclusion that it wasn't good enough, that I should get something "better" (more expensive).

To my ears, it doesn't color and is incredibly clean at 60 db gain, so why would I want to spend more money for the same thing? Most pres only go up to 60 db, with some going up to 65/68. I think it was the Avalon I looked at last night that tops at 60 db -- and how much cleaner can you get than what seems cleanest?

I bought my VTB-1 when they first came out based on Harvey's review of one. He sold me on it, and upon reflection, nothing's changed since then -- just some extra money burning a hole in my pocket. It's a hard concept that maybe I don't need more equipment...just get down to making good music. Now I've got nothing to blame, except my own bad recording! That's scary...maybe I'll reconsider that Grace...

I'm not trying to rain on anybody's parade who has a Grace, Sytek, Great River, Focusrite, Avalon, or any really nice pre that's built with A-list parts. There's gotta be Porches and there's gotta be Plymouths. My Plymouth is a nice ride and it gets me where I'm going (and actually with better gas mileage than the Porshce).

The only thing I need to do now is buy another VTB-1, thus getting my dual-pre. (I've got a VC3Q for color, if needed).

That is good to hear. The only diff between the VTB-1 and an Avalon is when you stack up about 8-24 tracks. It is then that you will understand about the high-bucks pre-amps. Ah yes, you will understand...............
 
Bodhisan said:
To my ears, it doesn't color and is incredibly clean at 60 db gain, so why would I want to spend more money for the same thing? Most pres only go up to 60 db, with some going up to 65/68. I think it was the Avalon I looked at last night that tops at 60 db -- and how much cleaner can you get than what seems cleanest?

Why dont' you do an A/B and decide for youself instead of just guessing?

Just a thought
 
Chessrock -- that's funny! I love it. You never know...

Big Kenny -- I know what you mean. I've got 11 lap steels and love the variety of sound and tone they give me...not to mention the multiple tube/solid state amps I've got that my wife just doesn't quite understand the need for...

Back to the inexpensive but high-quality recording gear we're now getting, say "yeah!"
 
I've had my VTB-1 for a pretty long time now... it's not the best preamp, nor my favorite, so I rarely use it... but, I think it's cute and will be keeping mine. By-the-way, I replaced the cheap tube with a better one... much better sounding dirt now... lol.
 
the vtb-1 is a good pre, i picked up a pair about a month ago. They are definatly one of the best in that price range. The only thing i dont like about it is the non-existant power switch
 
hey, whats up this is my first post. just wanted to chime in and say that the vtb1 is quite a bit better than my mackie pres, my ART tube, and my dbx mini tube pre. I would say it is the best preamp in it's price range without question.
 
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