Boss vs. Roland Swap

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Should I trade my (awesome) Boss BR1600 for
and even better Roland VS-2000 ?


I don't think I'll be losing any functions or features, but I will have to
put an additional $1500 CDN to make the trade fair...

...any thoughts ?
 
I recorded an album on a VS1824CD, and the VS2000 is basically an upgrade designed to address the biggest problems of the 1824, namely, the inability to link with a computer to import and export WAV files, a shortage of phantom powered XLR mic inputs, and not enough faders for the available tracks. All of those issues have been addressed on the VS2000. I wish I owned one. Otherwise, the box is very much like the 1824- Here's the upside and the downside.-

Upside- The thing is dead reliable. The buttons don't blow out, and it's a rather good mixer. Editing is simple and seamless. A-D conversion is fair, not great. What did you expect for $2000?

Downside- The mic preamps suck, but they do on your current box as well. You can greatly improve sound by feeding it signals from better outboard preamps, but the only way to completely bypass the pres is to send it a digital signal, which means 2 tracks at a time.

I have switched over to Pro Tools and a digi002, but I kept my V-studio for a remote recorder. If you feed it a digital signal, it's a pretty good mixdown deck with advanced editing capabilities. And yes, I think it is a big step up from your current deck. Is it worth the $1500 CDN? You'll have to make that call. Remember, it's got 16 channel faders, but like the 1824, it is limited to 8 simultaneous ins. Good luck.-Richie
 
Great info, thanks very much.

I didn't know most of that and will take it all into consideration....


....what does a digi setup cost ?
 
Like anything else, it depends on what you put into it. The digi002 comes in 2 versions, a rack mounted version with no mixer, and the mixer version, which I own. They are about $1000 and $2000 respectively (US$). I added a kickass silenced computer, about another $2000, and a flat monitor. The 002 has 8 channels, 4 with preamps and 4 without. I already had some pretty good preamps for the other 4 channels. Those are the analog ins. It also has a S/PDIF in (2 channels), and an optical input (8 more channels). I added Behringer ADA8000 to take advantage of the optical input, bringing the system to a maximum of 18 simultaneous inputs. Soon, I hope to upgrade the Behringer to an M-Audio octane or a Presonus octopre. So- channels 1-4 are the Digi002 itself. Channels 5-6 are Avalon AD2022, 7-8 are M-Audio DMP-3. 9-10 are Joemeek twinQ by S/PDIF, and 11-18 are ADA8000 by optical ADAT. Most of the time, I'm just using either the Avalon or the Joemeek. The only time I use the other channels is when I'm recording an entire band live, or on a radio play I'm recording for a paying customer.
There are a lot of options. The Avalon cost me $2100 for 2 channels. The DMP-3 cost me $119. The ADA8000- 8 channels for $229. The Joe meek involved a trade-in, but it's basically an $800 2 channel unit. The point is, there are cheaper ways to set up a Digi002 rig than the way I did it. At this point, I'm right on that fine line between kickass project studio and fly-by-night pro level, which is pretty much where I want to be. I look forward to upgrading the 8 optical channels, replacing the DMP-3 with 2 colored tube channels (Pendulum), and adding a kickass tube mic. I've got about $6,000 in mics, but my only tube mic is Rode NTK. I will probably add Lawson L47MKII or Soundelux U99. When you add in the monitor chain, cables, stands, instruments, cabs, acoustic treatment, and everything else, I'm almost at $30,000. Let's not even contemplate the 4,000+ CD-R's I've gone through in the last 3 years. What the hell? That's the cost of a new Acura. The Acura just guzzles gas, and the studio has paid for half of itself in 3 years. I may even break even before all this gear is worn out. You only live once. Just get the toys you want.-Richie
 
well the vs2000 might have the computer hookup ???do you need that??
 
I have the USB hookup on the BR1600 but it is SO SLOW !


I know the VS2000 has that as well, and I have seen that it is considerably faster....
 
i dont use the computer with the 2480 so your on your own
 
vs2480

Like Mikey I use a 2480
forget anything else
It's an amazing piece of gear and if you cant get what you want on it, take up a different interest!!!!
 
Like Matt, I have the br-1600. I'm enticed by the idea of trading up for the 2480cd 'cause I'm a track-hog and want more space to play. My wife will kill me--I've only had the 1600 for about a year... but from what I've read about the 2480 it sounds like the unit to have!

Do you think they'll take my 1600 as a trade-in?
 
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