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jiffy999
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I want one, but which one? Do they both have good recording quality?
frank_1
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The BR-8 is an 8 track, and the other is a 4 track. I don't like Boss or Roland Stand alone recorders because they use "data compression". Data compression is not good because it screws things up sonically. Go with Korg or Akai.
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jiffy999
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Data compression is not good because it screws things up sonically
What does that mean? Does data compression reduce the quality of the sound? I need something in the 400-500 dollar range that records good quality vocals, guitars, bass.
What does that mean? Does data compression reduce the quality of the sound? I need something in the 400-500 dollar range that records good quality vocals, guitars, bass.
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The Green Hornet
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Yo Speedo 999:
"Screwed up sonically" means it sounds like Ka Ka.
What you want, like "good" vocals and "good" instrument sounds comes in unison with how much you spend.
I have an MD8 in my studio but it is not CDR quality. It does nice stuff but not super nice stuff.
I also have the Yamaha DAW2816 and this box DOES NOT COMPRESS and has a hardrive with enough room to build a house and IT PRODUCES VERY VERY GOOD SOUNDS.
Price difference betwee the MD8 and 2816 is about 1k. So it depends on how many pezzutos you are willing to let go of for "sound quality."
Maybe you should visit the vendors and get a couple of demos or consult this site for the many pros/cons regarding units, get Yamaha on its site, Roland, Korg, etc. Do some work and spend some money.
Green Hornet
"Screwed up sonically" means it sounds like Ka Ka.
What you want, like "good" vocals and "good" instrument sounds comes in unison with how much you spend.
I have an MD8 in my studio but it is not CDR quality. It does nice stuff but not super nice stuff.
I also have the Yamaha DAW2816 and this box DOES NOT COMPRESS and has a hardrive with enough room to build a house and IT PRODUCES VERY VERY GOOD SOUNDS.
Price difference betwee the MD8 and 2816 is about 1k. So it depends on how many pezzutos you are willing to let go of for "sound quality."
Maybe you should visit the vendors and get a couple of demos or consult this site for the many pros/cons regarding units, get Yamaha on its site, Roland, Korg, etc. Do some work and spend some money.
Green Hornet
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jiffy999
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I don't need lots of options. I just need something that records at good quality. 4 tracks is plenty for me, I will only be recording one track at a time. Quality recording is the main thing I'm looking for
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jiffy999
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Help me
wheelema
Boner-obo
Jiffy,
I expect that this response will draw some flames. I just know I'll cry all night.
A lot of these guys either have either (A) no kids, or (B), no food for the kids, because they can spec the most expensive equipment without a moments reflection as to whether or not you can afford it.
There are some things that I believe you should splurge on, and which things those are depend on what you are trying to do. You decide where you want to toss your money.
I like the specs on the BR-532. It is the box that I am going to trade up to ASAP. Maybe a year from now I will looking at one of the Akai or Korg units, but right now I'll count my blessings to lay my hands on the BR-532.
Yes, it uses data compression. Will that corrupt your efforts to such a degree that you want to toss them out? Who knows? You decide. I only need four tracks right now, I like the effects that Roland tossed in, and I like the fact that I can slap a 128MB of storage into the thing. I can live with the data compression.
If you do not need eight tracks, go with the BR-532. It uses later technology, is less expensive, packs a lot of goodies into a small box, and will most likely trade for a good price on e-bay. Get into the Akai after you catch up on the mortgage.
I expect that this response will draw some flames. I just know I'll cry all night.
A lot of these guys either have either (A) no kids, or (B), no food for the kids, because they can spec the most expensive equipment without a moments reflection as to whether or not you can afford it.
There are some things that I believe you should splurge on, and which things those are depend on what you are trying to do. You decide where you want to toss your money.
I like the specs on the BR-532. It is the box that I am going to trade up to ASAP. Maybe a year from now I will looking at one of the Akai or Korg units, but right now I'll count my blessings to lay my hands on the BR-532.
Yes, it uses data compression. Will that corrupt your efforts to such a degree that you want to toss them out? Who knows? You decide. I only need four tracks right now, I like the effects that Roland tossed in, and I like the fact that I can slap a 128MB of storage into the thing. I can live with the data compression.
If you do not need eight tracks, go with the BR-532. It uses later technology, is less expensive, packs a lot of goodies into a small box, and will most likely trade for a good price on e-bay. Get into the Akai after you catch up on the mortgage.
frank_1
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I think you will quickly tire of a 4-track recorder. An 8-tracker is what you nEeDD! I am wanting an 8-tracker so damn bad, but don't have the cash on hand. Look at this 8-track. It's a fostex. It's almost 24-bit and NO Data Compression!! It's ok for the price.
Fostex VF08
Fostex VF08
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jiffy999
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NO one seems to read my posts sheesh. Data compression no data compression I could don't care. Does the boss br-8 record anything near cd quality??? If not what does? THere is got to be something out there that records around cd quality for 500 bucks.
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jiffy999
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Yo I've been looking at the yamaha md8 how does it compare with the boss br-8?
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jiffy999
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Ok the hell with all the above junk. I'm just looking for something to record good vocals with. Hook me up, tell me, what should I get? Please tell.
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The Green Hornet
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Yo Jiffy 9999999999:
You know, Frank 1 has got some funny looking kids??
I still have my MD8 plugged in as I'm still on the learning curve with the Yam 2816.
I've never really needed more than 8 tracks to do stuff. With 8 tracks you don't need to bounce. You must know that if you bounce two tracks to one track, you can only tweek the bounced tracks as ONE TRACK. So, you have a conflict with EQ sometimes, etc.
I started using my MD8 right out of the box. I hear the BR8 is also easy to use.
I have noted that the price on the MD8 has NOT dropped much because it is a good seller. The Roland boxes, [a new one about every 3 months] start high and then fall off dramatically.
But, #1, get an 8 tracker; it will save you many aspirin. Which brand? Up to you. I've always been happy with the results from my MD8. But, like everyone interested in home recording, I wanted better and I wanted to mix down to CDR or CDRW.
So, I bought the whole enchillada in one box. Now all I have to do is learn to use it.
Anyone out there writing any "tutoring" lessons for the 2816?
Cheers,
Green Hornet
You know, Frank 1 has got some funny looking kids??
I still have my MD8 plugged in as I'm still on the learning curve with the Yam 2816.
I've never really needed more than 8 tracks to do stuff. With 8 tracks you don't need to bounce. You must know that if you bounce two tracks to one track, you can only tweek the bounced tracks as ONE TRACK. So, you have a conflict with EQ sometimes, etc.
I started using my MD8 right out of the box. I hear the BR8 is also easy to use.
I have noted that the price on the MD8 has NOT dropped much because it is a good seller. The Roland boxes, [a new one about every 3 months] start high and then fall off dramatically.
But, #1, get an 8 tracker; it will save you many aspirin. Which brand? Up to you. I've always been happy with the results from my MD8. But, like everyone interested in home recording, I wanted better and I wanted to mix down to CDR or CDRW.
So, I bought the whole enchillada in one box. Now all I have to do is learn to use it.
Anyone out there writing any "tutoring" lessons for the 2816?
Cheers,
Green Hornet
frank_1
New member
DAW (computer) recording is better then stand alone recorders. If you have a computer and a good sound card (M-audio Delta 66), then you will have good sounding recordings. You need a seperate computer dedicated to just audio, need 2 hard drives - one for audio and one for programs, 256mg of RAM, and a high mhz processor. Get good software and you got a nice DAW at your disposal.
philboyd studge
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I'd reccomend the Tascam 788 portastudio. I've accomplished quite a bit on it compared to multitrack computer recording.
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Jeppo
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Ignore the cheapskates
If you are going to do this properly then don't mess around with boxes that compress the data, or stay in cheap analogue hell. The price of digital gear is coming down all the time. Once I ditched my 4 track recorder for a decent digital recorder I never looked back. These things are awesome. Check out the Akais, Korgs etc. for yourself. I bet you could pick up something good second hand if money is a problem.
If you are going to do this properly then don't mess around with boxes that compress the data, or stay in cheap analogue hell. The price of digital gear is coming down all the time. Once I ditched my 4 track recorder for a decent digital recorder I never looked back. These things are awesome. Check out the Akais, Korgs etc. for yourself. I bet you could pick up something good second hand if money is a problem.
MISTERQCUE
Not Just Anutha Brutha
Yo jiffy999! ADAT's RUUUUUUULLLEEEEE!!!!! And cheap too!
BTW, what is exactly your budget!!??
BTW, what is exactly your budget!!??