DM60
Well-known member
Hi All, feedback appreciated. Mainly looking for mix comments, but any constructive comments are welcomed.
Little EQ or compression has been applied at this point. Primary tone has been from the channels.
Thanks for listening.
Hi All, feedback appreciated. Mainly looking for mix comments, but any constructive comments are welcomed.
Little EQ or compression has been applied at this point. Primary tone has been from the channels.
Thanks for listening.
BroKen_H
Re-member
Personal preference notes: The tom in the left speaker sounds too wide (distracts to that side). The mix almost sound LCR. The second guitar (single notes) seems too far back in the mix. Either too much verb or too little volume. Normally, I'd complain about no bass line, but it seems to fit the music style very well. The bridge vocal is interesting. Very musical comb going on there.
Overall, the mix seems very well done to my speakers/ears.
Overall, the mix seems very well done to my speakers/ears.
FoulPhil
Well-known member
Yeah I'm not real big on the way the toms go back and forth, but it's a cool tune. I guess if you lowered the toms a bit it wouldn't be so weird. It's cool to hear some singing that doesn't sound like some rock star famous singer clone 
DM60
Well-known member
The Toms are out of the box SD mix. I didn't touch it as of yet. Pretty much the Dry Drum mix. Will take a look and start mixing the drums a bot more.
On the guitar, the verb is from the Amp sim, easy to dial it back, but it is also at a very low volume.
Bass, I have lots of bass, but I have it reduced way back, I struggle with the bass, I will pull it up some more to see if I can't get it to come up a bit. I am not good mixing bass, so this might be a struggle. It is a real bass, just not a real good bass mix
Thanks for the listen.
DM60
Well-known member
Yeah I'm not real big on the way the toms go back and forth, but it's a cool tune. I guess if you lowered the toms a bit it wouldn't be so weird. It's cool to hear some singing that doesn't sound like some rock star famous singer clone
Second comment on the Toms, part of the issue is I have added that as a part of the human drum element (I drummed it on drum pad), might have to do a combination of panning, reducing and lowering the velocity on the hits. Maybe bring the bass up will help offset the ear going towards the toms so much as well. I recorded an entire track of bass, but have it sitting too far back maybe. Next go around, I will bring that up and pull some of the toms back and have a more narrow panning.
Yea, cool rock singer days are over. I've tried to keep a real voice to my songs, which might not be the best, but it is real.
I appreciate the listen and feedback.
T
TripleM
Well-known member
Ditto on the "ping pong toms."
Vocal has a nice sound. A small pitchy note here and there. Didn't care for the chorus on the vocal around 2:33.
Guitars and bass sounded OK to me. Was there some sort of chorus effect on the clean electric? It might sound better without it - or without as much of it.
Vocal has a nice sound. A small pitchy note here and there. Didn't care for the chorus on the vocal around 2:33.
Guitars and bass sounded OK to me. Was there some sort of chorus effect on the clean electric? It might sound better without it - or without as much of it.
DM60
Well-known member
Guitar was an IK pre-set for old style guitar, I didn't tweak it much. See if I can't reduce that a bit.
Chorus part, yes I used a chorus on that, I was/am back and forth on that, since it was a change thought it might work, I may revisit that one.
Pitchy voice, not sure I can fix that. This was probably the 20th take and stays pretty consistent. I'll give it another go if I re-record the vocals see if a I can't straight them out.
Thanks for the feedback.
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polarity
New member
I don't care for the guitar sound at all. It almost sounds out of tune to me (I'm sure it wasn't). Levels all seem fine to me on headphones but the drums bouncing sound a little strange.
Vocal sounds pretty good, couple pitchy parts but not bad.
Keep in mind, my personal opinion and I am no professional.
Vocal sounds pretty good, couple pitchy parts but not bad.
Keep in mind, my personal opinion and I am no professional.
DM60
Well-known member
Unless you get paid for it, it is all personal opinion
I'll rework the chorus on the guitar since it has come up a few times and for sure the drums.
Thanks for listening.
(I am responding to these rather quick right now as I wait for another meeting.)
DM60
Well-known member
So thanks to everyone, I appreciate taking the time to listen and provide feedback.
Made a few changes:
Guitars were out of tune
not a lot, but they were, so retracked, this time in tune. (Thanks Polarity)
Brought the Bass up (see what that does)
Retracked vocals to see if I could fix some pitch issues
Worked the drums to reduce the panning and reduced some velocity on the Toms.
Removed Chorus at 2:26ish (I was on the fence about that one, so I wasn't in love with it)
Thanks to all who responded. If you decide to give it another go, comments are appreciated.
Made a few changes:
Guitars were out of tune
not a lot, but they were, so retracked, this time in tune. (Thanks Polarity)Brought the Bass up (see what that does)
Retracked vocals to see if I could fix some pitch issues
Worked the drums to reduce the panning and reduced some velocity on the Toms.
Removed Chorus at 2:26ish (I was on the fence about that one, so I wasn't in love with it)
Thanks to all who responded. If you decide to give it another go, comments are appreciated.
G
Greg_L
Banned
Some of the chords sound out of tune, or perhaps the intonation is off on the guitar. Vocals are really off in spots, but that's okay to me. It has a Dylan quality to it. My biggest problem with this mix is none of it sounds organic. Those sound like sim guitars and canned drums, but the drumming is way off in spots. Did you over-humanize the drums on this thing? But for the mix, levels and stuff, I think it's okay. The vocal delay is a little too clean and ridiculous to me, but that's an artistic choice and your call.
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polarity
New member
Listened back and I have to agree with Greg. The guitars still sound fishy to me. Out of tune or maybe the effect on them making it sound that way? Not the lead part but the strummed rhythm part. Any chance you could record those with an acoustic and see how it sounds?
The drums sound ok to me, but I have little to no experience there so other than sounding like addictive drums nothing sounds wrong. Vocals sound better to me in this mix, still a few little spots but I agree with Greg it feels like it fits the song.
The drums sound ok to me, but I have little to no experience there so other than sounding like addictive drums nothing sounds wrong. Vocals sound better to me in this mix, still a few little spots but I agree with Greg it feels like it fits the song.
Chili
Site Moderator
My first impression was the tuning of the guitar. As I'm listening, I read some of the comments, so it is confirmed, out of tune. I'm not crazy about the tone of the clean guitar, either. I think an acoustic could handle it, or add a bit of crunch and put it back in the mix. The little riff comes up often, so you don't want it out front all the time.
Your vocal tone fits this type of song perfectly. I dont' care about the pitchiness, it is a good performance. You seem to have better pitch control towards the end, so here's a little trick: do some more takes with the verses in opposite order. Then comp the best takes for each verse and put them where they belong. This way you get a great first verse because you sang it at the end of the song.
However, I thought the vocals were to far forward, and the drums too far back. Others didn't note it and I'm listening on headphones so take that for what it's worth.... nothing.
The ending? Don't cut off the ending!!!
Cool man. Good song.
Your vocal tone fits this type of song perfectly. I dont' care about the pitchiness, it is a good performance. You seem to have better pitch control towards the end, so here's a little trick: do some more takes with the verses in opposite order. Then comp the best takes for each verse and put them where they belong. This way you get a great first verse because you sang it at the end of the song.
However, I thought the vocals were to far forward, and the drums too far back. Others didn't note it and I'm listening on headphones so take that for what it's worth.... nothing.
The ending? Don't cut off the ending!!!
Cool man. Good song.
DM60
Well-known member
Just so folks don't think they are crazy, updated the mix and hopefully addressed a few more issues that were brought up. Vocals still probably need a re-do based on some comments, but I think I have addressed the other issues.
I will update once more when the vocals are redone.
I will update once more when the vocals are redone.
DM60
Well-known member
Thanks, based on your comments I have made a few tweaks. I will have another go at the vocals. I think they can be better as well, so want to take another run at it.
---------- Update ----------
Took another run at the E-guitars. I think I have the issue solved. If that doesn't work, I will just do the acoustic.
Thanks again.
DM60
Well-known member
Worked on the drums, there are two parts to the drums, one is a groove track and I think you caught it, it had that "human groove" and then I came back and played along and quantized, the human grooves and my part didn't mesh. That part is corrected.
I removed the delay, I thought it was low enough to add, without really be noticed, but you noticed. Decided to remove. I am going to try another run at the vocals, I think I can get them better.
Thanks for the feedback. As always pretty straight forward, to the point and accurate. Your listen and comments are appreciated.
Mr Clean
AKA Teddy Wong
I really like the song and the feel of it all. Nice relaxed vibe going on with it. Almost sounds like an amalgamation of Arlo Guthrie and John Denver.
I didn't hear the original upload but this version sounds pretty good to me. The bass sounds nice and I can hear that you're putting more thought and effort into your lines
The only thing I found odd was some of the Tom hits in the verses of the song. They seemed a little clumsy and unfitting, if you know what I mean? They're not offensive though so maybe it's just a a taste thing.
Good stuff
I didn't hear the original upload but this version sounds pretty good to me. The bass sounds nice and I can hear that you're putting more thought and effort into your lines
The only thing I found odd was some of the Tom hits in the verses of the song. They seemed a little clumsy and unfitting, if you know what I mean? They're not offensive though so maybe it's just a a taste thing.
Good stuff
DM60
Well-known member
I really like the song and the feel of it all. Nice relaxed vibe going on with it. Almost sounds like an amalgamation of Arlo Guthrie and John Denver.
I didn't hear the original upload but this version sounds pretty good to me. The bass sounds nice and I can hear that you're putting more thought and effort into your lines
The only thing I found odd was some of the Tom hits in the verses of the song. They seemed a little clumsy and unfitting, if you know what I mean? They're not offensive though so maybe it's just a a taste thing.
Good stuff
Thanks Ant. I need to work on my drumming, I hit those toms probably not in the correct way, I have to do a bit more work on this, I will go in and take another look at those toms.
Thanks for the listen and comments.
A
arsenaultk9
New member
I actually pretty liked the song, had a sort of neil young feel to it. The only complaint I'd have (suprised this didn't come at all from other members so take it with a grain of salt) is the accoustic guitar. There's some sort of boxy low mid frequence that prevents the guitar to have a more crispy sound. Lowering that frequence (between 200hz to 500hz) should give a little shine to those guitars. Yet again that's how I like accoustic guitar sounds so take it with a grain of salt if you prefer more boomy guitars.
BroKen_H
Re-member
Well, the track in the OP is not the same as yesterday, so I'm assuming this is the new mix. I can hear a bass guitar part in there, and the lead notes are much more pronounced. Really tightened things up (and it does sound better in tune). Greg's right about the Dylan esque quality. The new mix sounds a lot like early 70's Dylan. Just need the mouth harp!