Best way to use my equiptment

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I've acquired a yahmaha mg16/4 powered mixer several mics from older mics naiant and logic pro. Im trying to do a recording of my friends band track by track.

The main issue im running into is editing the drums since with the mixer I think I can only send all the mics out of the mixer in one track. Is there anyway to get around this with the equipment I have or another piece for cheap (under 100) to be able to multitrack record the drums into logic?

The more ive been researching recording I see that the mixer my not be the best piece of equipment for this recording and a firewire audio interface would be a better option but this is the equipment I have to work with for now.
 
You're not likely to find an audio interface that can record enough simultaneous tracks to individually mic each drum in a kit for under $100. You definitely need something like that for what you want to do. You're right about the mixer in that you have to mix it down live going into the computer.
 
I've only been using 4 mics on the drums, two overheads, bass, and snare. would splitting it into two channels instead of 1 and using something like newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829128004]Newegg.com - StarTech ICUSBAUDIOB 2 Channels USB Interface Black Audio Adapter be any helpful at all do you think or just a waste of time?

anyone know how much that mixer might be worth if I were to try to sell it and just go with a firewire or usb interface? which would be the best interface for its money?
 
A $13 converter will get you $13 sound. I would avoid like the plague. Maybe $200 for the mixer if you can find a buyer, but it sounds like you need a mixer for the PA. I don't think you will find anything in that range that will do both things you are looking for, though this is not my area of expertise either.
 
Until you get a new interface, pan your bass drum mic hard left and the snare/overheads hard right to split them into two separate tracks. This allows you to apply separate processing and EQ to the bass--you can usually get away with a similar EQ on overheads and snare.

It's not ideal but I've made some okayish recordings this way and it might do you until you can afford a multichannel interface.

Bob
 
You could pick up a used Maudio Delta 44 or Delta 1010 for around $100. Then run 1/4" unbalanced cables from your channel insert jacks.
 
mkm1100 said:
anyone know how much that mixer might be worth if I were to try to sell it and just go with a firewire or usb interface? which would be the best interface for its money?
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I've got two delta 1010's that I'm selling. They've got to go, so I'm selling them cheap. Even better if I knew they would be helping someone to record better. Let me know if you're interested.
 
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I've got two delta 1010's that I'm selling. They've got to go, so I'm selling them cheap. Even better if I knew they would be helping someone to record better. Let me know if you're interested.
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These are sound cards right? I'm running logic on my macbook. Thanks anyway.

What would be the best option to plug in either firewire or usb (I believe firewire is better but more expensive)
 
I cant use a sound car like that in my macbook so I need a different option if I decide to try to get rid of the mixer and go with an interface. So not really better than the delta 1010 but the best for the money that I can use with my macbook.
 
There is a TASCAM FW-1884 listed used for $159.99 which seems really low if the original selling price was over 1000. Id have to call and find out more about it but would something like that be better to use or a Presonus Firepod?
 
Make sure to find out how many simultaneous outputs or converters the device has. A device may have 10 inputs but only 4 converters, or something like that. You would only be able to record 4 tracks at a time with a device like that.
 
It says it has 8 simultaneous outputs. In the mean time while Im still trying to use the mixer if I faded the bass drum to one side and the overheads snare to the other would I put the left and right tracks into one stereo track in logic then is their a way to split them after its recorded to edit each individually or is there a way to make two separate mono channels and have the input from either left or right of the line in?
 
I use Audition rather than logic but I'll be surprised if there's not a way to split the input into two mono tracks at the time of recording.
 
mkm1100 said:
It says it has 8 simultaneous outputs. In the mean time while Im still trying to use the mixer if I faded the bass drum to one side and the overheads snare to the other would I put the left and right tracks into one stereo track in logic then is their a way to split them after its recorded to edit each individually or is there a way to make two separate mono channels and have the input from either left or right of the line in?
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Yep. That is definitely possible. You should be able to capture two mono signals. Just set up two mono tracks and set one input to L and the other input to R.

You could also try one mic on the kick and one mic as an overhead. Just a thought.
 
mkm1100 said:
These are sound cards right? I'm running logic on my macbook. Thanks anyway.

What would be the best option to plug in either firewire or usb (I believe firewire is better but more expensive)
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Technically Firewire is a little better than USB because it doesn't rely on your computer's processor. USB does. But, for no more tracks than you'll be recording at one time, USB will be fine. Just make sure it's USB 2.0 or 3.0. I personally have always used firewire, but that's just me.
 
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