Best soundcard for my needs?

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I'm looking to record vocals and guitar only for making demos. I'd prefer a card where I can plug in 1/4" jacks directly rather than use a mixer. A breakout box would be good but isn't a necessity. Any suggestions on a good, not too expensive soundcard?
 
I believe the Echo Mia is the least expensive sound card with unbalanced ins and outs.

If you're willing spring for RCA/Phono cables there are some cheaper cards with RCA audio (not digital) inputs.

I decided to get a Turtle Beach Montego II with the optional Optical ports. Got it used on eBay (hasn't arrived yet) for a paultry sum.

The TB card uses standard sound card phono jacks. I'm using adapters.

Carl
 
Krakit said:
I believe the Echo Mia is the least expensive sound card with unbalanced ins and outs.

If you're willing spring for RCA/Phono cables there are some cheaper cards with RCA audio (not digital) inputs.

I decided to get a Turtle Beach Montego II with the optional Optical ports. Got it used on eBay (hasn't arrived yet) for a paultry sum.

The TB card uses standard sound card phono jacks. I'm using adapters.

Carl

I forgot to mention that I'll be using an Audio Buddy with my sound card. Cheaper than a mixer.

Carl
 
Krakit said:
I believe the Echo Mia is the least expensive sound card with unbalanced ins and outs.


The EchoMIA has balanced 1/4" inputs.
 
so here's my other question

What's the difference between balanced and unbalanced?
 
The difference between balanced and unbalanced cable is an extra conductor in the wire. An unbalanced connection runs two conductors, a hot (+) and a ground. A balanced connection runs three conductors, a hot (+), a cold (-), and a ground. What makes the difference is not in the cable but in what happens at either end, before and after the signal travels down the cable. Any cable can be an antenna and a noise collector.

First lets look at balanced connectors.

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You can see that they come in two common forms, one is an XLR or cannon plug and the other is a TRS 1/4" connector. Don't confuse this balanced connection with the balanced connector that's used on some consoles. On a number of Mackie consoles for instance, they use a TRS to run an insert in and out of the board. This is not balanced but using the three connections as in, out and ground. One connector does the job of two and it's not balanced.

What makes a balanced connection work, is some electronic trickery that makes the noise on the line phase cancel itself out of existence. (Remember our feature on Phase?) Here's how it happens. A balanced connection first runs through a differential amplifier which splits the hot signal into two and flips one half 180 degrees out of phase. This travels along the cable as plus and minus along with the ground on three separate conductors (on an XLR, pin 2 is hot, pin 3 is cold and pin 1 is ground). Along the way, the usual noise is encountered and picked up by the line. At the other end of the connection, the minus is flipped back into phase and you end up with a plus and a ground again, just as it was when you started. The difference is, that now the noise is out of phase with itself and cancels completely.

The above comes from the About.com homerecording section.

About.Com Home recording

Carl
 
Thanks for the info!

It's a bit much for me but I get the idea. That sounds like a great card. How much more would I need to spend to get a comparable card with a breakout box?
 
Krakit said:
I forgot to mention that I'll be using an Audio Buddy with my sound card. Cheaper than a mixer.

Carl

I was just looking at the Audio Buddy and that seems right up my alley. I'm looking for a setup without a lot of bells and whistles (read: confusing). What would be a good card to pair up with the Audio Buddy? And in case I didn't make it clear, I'm really grateful for the help. Digital recording is very intimidating to me. I've been recording on 4 track for almost 10 years, and even with that I only use it's most basic abilities.
 
I've looked at that one several times, but didn't want to use a mixer. If I had known about the Audio Buddy before I would have gone for it. THanks!
So one last question: Where's the best place to buy this stuff online?
 
Okay, one last thing, I swear

I checked out the audiophile 2496 and audio buddy. The guy at the store told me you can covert 1/4" to the rca on the card, but it won't be balanced. So three questions: Is the adapter to go 1/4" to rca cheap? Will the fact that the rca jacks aren't balanced make the balanced jacks on the audio buddy worthless? And will it cause problems for recording vocals?
 
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