best sequencer/multi-track

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Hey all,

I want my PC home studio to run on ONE main program, with intergrated midi sequencing and audio tracks. I USED to use Opcode Vision (loved it), and Vegas Pro for audio. This was of course annoying since they are not integrated.

My question is: Which of the major software (Cubase, pro tools, logic, cakewalk, etc.), has the best sequencing and looping functions? I want to FULLY compose songs with audio and midi sequencing for beat based (hop hop), and I dont want to mess around with trying all the programs. Thoughts on the best seqeuencing software? I will mostly be sequencing sounds from Gigasampler.

Thanks.
 
we need a list on here.

at the risk of being accused of being repetitive . powertracks.
29 bucks from pgmusic.com. i love it. tremendous midi sequencer plus 48 digital audio tracks. plus 24 bit !try the demo and talk to pro's in the pg user forum if you dont believe me.
the lots of built in effects are reason alone. like echo. reverb. chorus etc.
by the way ive been accused of being some plant for them by others on here. i'm NOT ! just a happy user.
its also received music magazine awards .
 
need standard

Powertracks may be useful for some, but I am looking for full-functionality, and one of the major programs. Thoughts?
 
full functionality

excuse me ?
what functionality does it lack ? that you need ?
with respect, howlong have you been recording ?
 
PT isn't that great for MIDI and Logic is a pain in the ass but very powerful. Probably Sonar or Cubase SX would work well for you.
 
Hey Tex, I was browsing and saw your post here. I've been looking at Sonar 3, was wondering for starting out if I would really need the Producer edition and the extra plugins that are offered, I've found the Sonar 3 for 200 bucks, and Sound Forge 7.0 for $160 on a site, that's a good buy for the two, would they compliment each other? I've been reading here that an outside editor is the way to go. I've been reading your posts here on the bbs and you always seem to have some good answers. Appreciate the help, thanks Ralph
Merry Christmas!
 
I use Sonar 3 Producer with SF 7.

They work woderful together. ;)

spin
 
I'm sure you wouldn't be disappointed if you got Cubase SX for intergrated midi sequencing and audio tracks. I can't come up with any advantages but there sure aren't any shortcomings...
 
it amazes me

the amount of money people blow through on software etc
it would be interesting to do a poll on audio software buyer demographics. the lower the age , the more they spend ?

you have great products like multitrackstudio.com that satchanza
on one of the other forums and i like, and people blow right by it.
a lot of newbies have a lot to learn imho.
 
87PRS said:
Hey Tex, I was browsing and saw your post here. I've been looking at Sonar 3, was wondering for starting out if I would really need the Producer edition and the extra plugins that are offered, I've found the Sonar 3 for 200 bucks, and Sound Forge 7.0 for $160 on a site, that's a good buy for the two, would they compliment each other? I've been reading here that an outside editor is the way to go. I've been reading your posts here on the bbs and you always seem to have some good answers. Appreciate the help, thanks Ralph
Merry Christmas!
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Ralph,
I really don't know what will be best for you. Since I started using my Radar system I haven't touched a DAW and I'm getting a bit behind on the latest versions. I'm probably going to have to get one again sometime here but for now I enjoy not having to boot up a computer to do anything. I just like the Sonar and Cubase SX interfaces over the other programs.

Manning- Have you actually used the more expensive programs? Your attempt to portray anyone who uses them as young newbies is kinda funny. Most of the guys who do the software recomendations around here started out using Vision or Performer on a Mac SE 15yrs ago. It's not like we downloaded a demo last week and started considering ourselves experts.
 
^ good point.. lol im young and i hate spending money.. i have cool edit lol..
 
Thirst said:
^ good point.. lol im young and i hate spending money.. i have cool edit lol..
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Cool Edit was great product, but it didn't do MIDI at all, Thirst... :) Not even Adobe Audition. TexRoadKill, SPINSTERWUN and Laynestaley said the best ones. Either SONAR 3 or Cubase SX :)

;)
Jaymz
 
texasroadk

yes of course. all i'm saying is a lot of newbies blow right past the cheaper programs like multitrackstudio because...well often they are impressionable for various reasons.
at LEAST they should try them out.
have YOU ever tried traktion ? N track ? etc
just because a name act uses a program does not impress me,
because most people grapple with whatever they buy anyway.
my only point and satchanza i'm sure will back me up as like me he uses cheaper programs, is ....
1. tremendous value in the cheaper programs.
2. if you cant do a hit with one its more likely you need to really understand engineering. no expensive program will fix THAT,
even though some newbies that ask me daily naively believe it will.
3. some - like N track even offer free upgrades. or very low cost upgrades.
in summary i'm in heaven with the ones i use compared to when i was limited on 2 inch machines to 16 tracks.
already using the cheaper programs like powertracks and magix have allowed me to save for better preamps and soundcard.
in summary all i'm saying to newbies is AT LEAST TRY THE DEMOES.
there is another point . a lot of the small developers are very gifted, and technically competent, andoften do it for love than the money.
 
manning1,

I think you said it well - "in summary all i'm saying to newbies is AT LEAST TRY THE DEMOES".

For a newbie, it's hard to know where to start with all the hardware, software, OS's, tweaks, etc. etc., available. I was fortunate to have some friends that have been doing this for many years and have all the latest, greatest software. A few have well over $100,000 invested? in their home studios and without a doubt, they make some VERY nice recordings. I got a lot of great advice from them.

My budget isn't anywhere near that grand and it forced me to look for more economical means and right now I have around $1,700 in my setup and all I want/need to add to it is a better mic(probably a Studio Projects B1 - $79) and mic pre(probably a Studio Projects VTB1 - $129). As I've stated before, my recordings - at least to MY ears - are very close in "sonic quality" to my friends.

A few weeks ago one of my friends was over and was amazed at the functions I had in MultitrackStudio - there are some things he couldn't do in Sonar. Does that make it better? Don't think so, it just fits in well with what "I" want to do.

Finding/deciding what YOU want to do is the hardest part.
 
your smart

satch, your smart getting multitrack studio.
i think you'll be happy with the vtb1.
as to mics , a lot of people also seem to like the marshall v67 and mxl 990. frankly MT threw me when i tried it.
if i had not already got powertracks and magix audio studio
i would have got MT. i might yet.
the reason i dont want to spend a few hundred bucks on
a program is new versions come so fast. i would have bought a more expensive multitrack software when i set up my DAW IF
you were say offered free upgrades. but spending 500 every couple of years does not appeal to me. the next version
of audio studio will be another 50 bucks. I dont mind THAT amount. thats very fair imho.
the bottom line thing that MT impressed me with was the darn rock solid feel i got from it.
happy new year satch.
 
Thanks for the mic suggestions - I'll check them out.

Happy New Year right back atcha Manning !

In fact, I wish everyone here the very BEST in 2004 !

BTW - the 24/32 bit MultitrackStudio Pro Plus Version is $119 US with a year of free upgrades.
 
satch

i'd forgotten to mention this. there are articles on the net
for building your own microphones using panasonic wma capsules. very low cost. just a few bucks. apparently they
are pretty good. might be worth looking at as an extra tool in the
mic locker.
here in canada apex have a line of mics that is very cheap.
starting around 40 bucks cdn ie: about 30 bucks US.
i dont know how good they sound though.
if you ever get the money , look at crown pzm mics.
often forgotten by newbies but used a lot in big studios.
can be used on lots of instruments. drums, vocals, guitar amps.
etc
 
manning1

Thanks again for the info - I just gotta be careful of GAS(Gear Acquistion Syndrome) :)

I built a bunch of PAIA kits in the 80's and got into that MORE than making music.
 
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