Best Recorded song?

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What (in your opinion) is the best recorded song? why?
I don't care if you say Comfortably numb by floyd
or blew by nirvana

just give reasons.
 
The ironic thing here is that if the song is good, it doesnt matter how "good" it was recorded.

with that being said, I love 311s "Transistor" album because the producer really knew how to get that ambient spacey feel to it.

As long as the quality is good, its more about the song rather than the recording
 
hollywoodending said:
The ironic thing here is that if the song is good, it doesnt matter how "good" it was recorded.
I disagree, it absolutely DOES matter how well it was recorded. A good song will persist DESPITE the recording quality, but it does make a difference.
You give me the same song recorded well and recorded poorly, and guess which I'll choose to listen to.

One of my favorite songs of all time was not (in my humble opinion) well-recorded. It will forever be flawed to me, even though the arrangement and performance is stellar.

That said, the original question is a little ambiguous: was he asking which is the best song that happens to have been recorded, or is he asking which is the best recording of a song? In the latter case, what is his criteria for "good"? Recording quality? Arrangement? Performance?

So, if it was the latter, then you have not addressed his question at all.
 
Here's the story of my favorite (and best recorded) song - 'Sally Go 'Round The Roses' by the Jaynetts.

"By no means your typical girl group lament of the early sixties, “Sally Go ‘Round The Roses” is a subtle and transcendental epic in 45rpm form.

"Addressing hurt with a stately and graceful bearing, the backing music’s construction feels more like a three minute edit from a larger, continuous body than a top 10 hit from 1963. Soft exchanges between the lead female vocalist and her assembled background sisters emanate serenely as though still waters to the agitated pools of rippling heartbreak, the spaces in-between the verses are long enough for the voices to trail off and be carried off downstream. A gradual increase in the voices’ volume creates a subliminal accenting to said verses of ‘response and call’ that reiterate as though in reverse echo. In an infinite cycle, the constant re-echoing of the opening line creates an ovoid/discoid/cycloid/every-other-kinda-oid which is emphasised by ever-repeating, tinkling piano clusters while understated organ fills operate as soothing, wordless emotional redress as well as linking the verses and prompting emotional shift in delivery. Altogether, the effect creates a circular pattern around a sanctuary where the perfume of soft beauty hangs blossoming from stalks of pricks in solitude, where no one need know and where no one can hear the pain throbbing in your head or feel the sobbing in your heart.

"In a cleverly inverted arrangement, the lead vocal of innocence follows in response to the backing voices’ opening exhortations of experience. Legend has it that producer Abner Spector (no relation to Phil) recorded and pieced together over twenty different vocalists for the tracks and with exacting reverb, sounds as full as though most if not all of womanhood were right there on the session. Infidelity and sorrow are at the root of the lyrical content, with roses are the only promise of relief although oddly: the line “Roses, they can’t hurt you” offers not a hint of thorns anywhere. The oblique angles in the lyrics -- a total of eleven lines -- are repeated, harmonised with and called-and-responded-to like the tides surging in and retreating slowly out and the music complements it by filling in the rest of the meaning with emotional colourations. Tracing a single circumference is Sally, her story only one of many circuiting orbits in the song as it nudges along consistently swaying gently as the drums are resigned to gentle brushstrokes and the loping guitars played an accompanying, unchanging locked groove. The overall treatments are gentle and precise, overlaid within a distant voodoo rhythm that keeps the piece quietly buoyant within a large interior world of simultaneous orbits and simple layers.

"Theories on the origins and meaning of this track abound, and they usually project the interests of their authors: whether as a children’s sing-along, Celtic ballad or whether the true meaning of “Sally Go ‘Round The Roses” is really a series of coded references to menstruation, lesbianism, the Cuban Missile Crisis or even a guarded commentary on Salvador Dali’s break with surrealism doesn’t matter in the least... for the only true meaning of this song is ultimately the one you think and feel it is (Just as I feel it deals with the far less ambiguous theme of heartbreak, and nothing less.) But the main success of this single is with its lyrical and musical open-endedness, the very thing that makes it so mysterious yet familiar and compelling.

"As the chorus returns for the final time, the organ finally extends in length as if fulfilling the promise at the beginning when it was but a small, smattering outgrowth of notes. Here it has now grown into a riff, one that would reemerge in the future to underscore “Gloria” (in just about the ‘just about midnight’ line), “When The Music’s Over” and “900 Million People Daily”, to name three. From mighty oaks, “Sally Go ‘Round The Roses” is psychedelia at its very root three years before it exploded, although it might as well have been three thousand for its timeless theme is matched by an equally eternal arrangement that allures one into another place entirely for the duration of its slow rolling thrall.

"The backing track of “Sally” is presented alone on the B-side, credited perversely to ‘Sing Along Without The Jaynetts.’ A trace of the reverbed vocals bleed through audibly enough in the distance, so you can whisper along to the lyrics as you weep yourself to sleep with the Dansette’s arm flipped off to the side to play this slice of infinity over and over as your pillow absorbs tears while the words resound in your head. Forever.

"By no means your typical girl group lament of the early sixties, “Sally Go ‘Round The Roses” is a subtle and transcendental epic in 45rpm form."

©1997-2006ce Head Heritage
 
fraserhutch said:
I disagree, it absolutely DOES matter how well it was recorded. A good song will persist DESPITE the recording quality, but it does make a difference.
You give me the same song recorded well and recorded poorly, and guess which I'll choose to listen to.

One of my favorite songs of all time was not (in my humble opinion) well-recorded. It will forever be flawed to me, even though the arrangement and performance is stellar.

That said, the original question is a little ambiguous: was he asking which is the best song that happens to have been recorded, or is he asking which is the best recording of a song? In the latter case, what is his criteria for "good"? Recording quality? Arrangement? Performance?

So, if it was the latter, then you have not addressed his question at all.


I have to agree with you. It does make a big difference. A stunning song that moves me and makes me feel, even if recorded poorly, would be mind blowing if recorded well.

Having said that, I'm going to have to to say......anything off of Strapping Young Lad's "Alien". Scary good songwriting, musicianship, and vocals along with stellar production. Sadly, maybe 1 out of 10,000 peeps on this board even know who SYL are. so...feel free to ignore my comment. :)
 
Corpus Christi Carol by Jeff Buckley.

I think its hard to achieve a sense of completeness or fullness when recording only a singer/songwriter and their instrument...I feel that with a band, this sense of fullness comes more easily (presumably because a variety of instruments covers a larger spectrum of frequencies.)

I think in this song, the Andy Wallace and Clif Norrell did a fantastic job with a minimalist approach; by focusing on the 'less-is-more' principle, they played off Buckelys stunning voice (arguably his greatest asset) with the purest sounding electric guitar playing I have ever heard!

The song is a middle english hymm dating to the 15th century...I think there is a sense of majesty and wonder about it but as to how much of that is achieved by the production and engineering can only be speculated. It's rather difficult to say why a song appeals to you...honestly, recording properties would probably be the last criteria i'd use when critiqueing. But if I had to pick one song, it would be that.

If i was allowed to pick 2, and include composition and arrangement, I'd pick Sweet Thing by Van Morrison...but can you filter out musicianship, creative ability, band synergy and just focus on how it was recorded?? Its pretty tough.
 
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Zed10R said:
I have to agree with you. It does make a big difference. A stunning song that moves me and makes me feel, even if recorded poorly, would be mind blowing if recorded well.

Having said that, I'm going to have to to say......anything off of Strapping Young Lad's "Alien". Scary good songwriting, musicianship, and vocals along with stellar production. Sadly, maybe 1 out of 10,000 peeps on this board even know who SYL are. so...feel free to ignore my comment. :)
Actually, if we don't know who they are (and I don't), we should NOT ignore your comment -we should probably check them out :D That's why I'm monitoring the thread, anyways......
 
fraserhutch said:
That said, the original question is a little ambiguous: was he asking which is the best song that happens to have been recorded, or is he asking which is the best recording of a song? In the latter case, what is his criteria for "good"? Recording quality? Arrangement? Performance?

sorry, I meant the best from an Engeneers perspective, good layers of reverb, perfictly balanced EQ anp pure quality ect. ect. not necasaraly the best written piece of work (but that does help)

and ssscientist thanks for the detailed discription, though, I don't expect evrybody have quite so much reasoning. :o

but thanks to evryone else who posted thier opinions.

edit "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to ssscientist again." since when did I give ssscientist rep??
 
Nick_Black said:
sorry, I meant the best from an Engeneers perspective, good layers of reverb, perfictly balanced EQ anp pure quality ect. ect. not necasaraly the best written piece of work (but that does help)


Reverb? EQ? This stuff has a lot more to do with mixing than tracking.

Are you asking for the best recording, or the best mixing job?
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'Sally Go 'Round The Roses' was indeed an outstanding piece of work. I think it was Phil Spector who said it was his favourite song.

It is very difficult to pick one....... you want the 'sound' of the thing, eh...........
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Heroes and Villains, the Beach Boys.

Give it a spin on a good, big sound system. Brian Wilson is deaf in one ear, so everything had to sound excellent in mono. Stereo is whipped cream and a cherry.

Also, I will forever dig the bass sound they got on The Beat Goes On. Something was in tune THAT day.
 
My first thought was "Good Vibrations"; 40 years later it sounds great no matter what format I hear it in.
 
I certainly admire everybody's ability to be able to pick one song out of the millions of them out there in a hundred different styles of music as being the one and only best recording. You are better people than I.

I have a few that come to mind as productions that I admire, but there's no way I could say that one was better than the rest any more than I can say that one meal that I had was better than all the rest. In no particular order:

"The Turn of a Friendly Card" - Alan Parsons Project
"Belly of the Whale" - Burning Sensation
"Rocks" - Primal Scream
"Beale Street Blues" - Ellington & Hodges Back To Back
"Pride and Joy" - Stevie Ray Vaughn - MTV Unplugged Vol.1
"One Toke Over The Line" - Brewer and Ashely
"Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon Soundtrack" - Yo Yo Ma et al

I could keep going, there are a dozen more popping into my head as I type this. Which is best? Hell if I know.

G.
 
fraserhutch said:
Actually, if we don't know who they are (and I don't), we should NOT ignore your comment -we should probably check them out :D That's why I'm monitoring the thread, anyways......


I like your attitude.... :D

This is the guy's site. His music is, IMO, very inspiring in many ways.

http://www.hevydevy.com/
 
Being a metal head, here are a list of recorded songs with a production quality that I really admire. I will not be talking about song-writing and arrangement as it is out of this thread's scope. These are not arranged in any particular order.

* Alter Bridge's "One Day Remains" album
Huge and rich-sounding drums, tight low-end on the bass to compliment the drums, fat and in-your-face guitars, upfront vocals that are clean and full of clarity.

* Dream Theater's "Train Of Thought" album
Tight and punchy drum sounds, great guitar sound.

* Avenged Sevenfold's "Waking The Fallen" album
Okay I don't know how to describe what I like about the sound from this album. In my opinion, it does sound pretty raw, but there's something about the sound that I like.

* Atreyu's "A Death Grip On Yesterday" album
Huge drum sound, heavy scooped guitars and in fact overall sound.

* Nickelback's "The Long Road" and "All The Right Reasons" album
I love the guitar sounds from these two albums.

* Metallica's "Load" and "Reload" albums
The overall production quality and sound from these albums have been a huge inspiration for me in the earlier days when I was just beginning to learn about recording.

Other metal albums which I generally think the production quality is top-notch but I won't elaborate on why I like them:

* Mudvayne's "Lost And Found"
* Slipknot's "Vol 3: The Subliminal Verses"
* Killswitch Engage's "The End Of Heartache"

Non-metal albums which I admire the production quality of:

* Ashlee Simpson's "I Am Me"
* Kelly Clarkson's "Breakaway"
* Beyonce Knowles' "B'Day"

These are all in my honest opinion, of course.
 
Something like "The Chain" by Fleetwood Mac. Or anything of the "Rumours" album - that album frickin rocks.
 
Thriller. Even if it's not my fav kind of music, I just love Quincy Jones. And I would say that Songs in the Key of Life is one of the best recorded albums in every aspect.
Carlos
 
Lyle Lovett's "Joshua Judges Ruth" has some great production. I LOVE the intro to "I've been to Memphis"; love cranking that up on a nice sounding stereo :)
 
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