Nick The Man
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just take the poll and let me know what you think cause i have many options right now and i wanna pick the right one
zbert
In the swamps of Jersey
Well Nick, like anything it depends on what you are recording and what tpye of sound you are looking for. I own three sets for different styles. A Ludwig 1969 set. A Yamaha recording custom birch and a GMS SE maple set. They are all great at different things. I've been in a number of "pro" studios. One studio used nothing but vintage 1960's drums. another had this 1980's Rogers set. Beat to hell but the sound was great.
Of course so much will depend on your room, mics, pres, heads, tuning, playing ablity, etc. And then there's the whole electronic drum thing. I keep an Alesis DM5 in the rack to trigger mostly kick sounds. Looking at your age (15) my suggestion for a new set would be the Mapex line. I like what I hear and they are a decent price. I'm not a fan of any of the DW lower line kits. As far as Tama, Pearl and Yamaha go with lower line sets you never know what your going to get as they change lines and woods so fast.
Look into a used kit for the best value. Just hit a lot of drums to you hear what you like.
Good Luck
Of course so much will depend on your room, mics, pres, heads, tuning, playing ablity, etc. And then there's the whole electronic drum thing. I keep an Alesis DM5 in the rack to trigger mostly kick sounds. Looking at your age (15) my suggestion for a new set would be the Mapex line. I like what I hear and they are a decent price. I'm not a fan of any of the DW lower line kits. As far as Tama, Pearl and Yamaha go with lower line sets you never know what your going to get as they change lines and woods so fast.
Look into a used kit for the best value. Just hit a lot of drums to you hear what you like.
Good Luck
Nick The Man
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im looking for a chris layton sound (stevie ray vaughan)
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geet73
OMG!
I don't what will give you that sound, but Yamaha Stage Customs are definitely some of the best drums made for the price.
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Bdrum
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Classic Rock
Hey Nick,
I would suggest looking up the Kit's that those drummer's played.
(I.E.) What was popular during that time!
I play a 80's Pearl export with a big kick and tom's!
As for best recording...
I would say that a custom PEARL Masterworks would be the Top's.
Hey Nick,
I would suggest looking up the Kit's that those drummer's played.
(I.E.) What was popular during that time!
I play a 80's Pearl export with a big kick and tom's!
As for best recording...
I would say that a custom PEARL Masterworks would be the Top's.
MichaelM
New member
Why is this thread not getting the same response as all those 'I want one microphone that is the best for recording' threads? I mean head selection and tuning has much more influence on the sound.. As does mic selection and placement. What I mean is any good quality kit, with the right heads tuned correctly should sound good if recorded properly.
Sorry if I sound like an asshole... I had a big weekend
Sorry if I sound like an asshole... I had a big weekend
zbert
In the swamps of Jersey
Michael
A lot depends on how much you want to spend. If you want one suggestion I'd say buy a used kit of Yamaha recording customs. They were used for many years till the whole DW thing started. Maple kits sound good too but I still get a "bigger" sound with my recording customs. On the bottom of the page is called Drum Trax. That is my recording custom kit with no other instruments from the song.http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/babyfishmouthstudiomusic.htm
Maybe hearing an example will help in your search.
A lot depends on how much you want to spend. If you want one suggestion I'd say buy a used kit of Yamaha recording customs. They were used for many years till the whole DW thing started. Maple kits sound good too but I still get a "bigger" sound with my recording customs. On the bottom of the page is called Drum Trax. That is my recording custom kit with no other instruments from the song.http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/babyfishmouthstudiomusic.htm
Maybe hearing an example will help in your search.
MichaelM
New member
Yeah, what I was saying was how can you have a thread like this, with a poll with 5 options on such a broad question. Normal questions like that here go something like this:
Q "what is the best mic for recording"
A "what are you trying to record"
It's the same with drums. I mean I'm very happy at the moment with my Export kit, I know it's got it's limitations but yeah. I know it sounded a lot different with the original heads on the toms than it does with pinstripes, but if they both were tuned well they both could sound good. Not the same though.
so anyway, what is the best crash cymbal?
Q "what is the best mic for recording"
A "what are you trying to record"
It's the same with drums. I mean I'm very happy at the moment with my Export kit, I know it's got it's limitations but yeah. I know it sounded a lot different with the original heads on the toms than it does with pinstripes, but if they both were tuned well they both could sound good. Not the same though.
so anyway, what is the best crash cymbal?
RezN8
Blick-um, blick-um...
Hmmm...
I agree with zbert's comments above. I also agree the Yamaha recording customs or Mapex Saturn or V-series are great choices - depends what you're looking for.
I've seen Chris Layton behind many different kits including Tama, Pearl, Ludwig, DW... Is there a particular album you like him on?
BTW- The best crash cymbal is a seasoned Zildjian 14" A-custom (well, it sounded like the best one last night in the4 studio...)
Cheers, Rez
I agree with zbert's comments above. I also agree the Yamaha recording customs or Mapex Saturn or V-series are great choices - depends what you're looking for.
I've seen Chris Layton behind many different kits including Tama, Pearl, Ludwig, DW... Is there a particular album you like him on?
BTW- The best crash cymbal is a seasoned Zildjian 14" A-custom
(well, it sounded like the best one last night in the4 studio...)Cheers, Rez
Nick The Man
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really ive only seen him behind a tama starclassic..... too much money
and no michael your not being an ass your right it is a broad question... and i like your theory (any decent kit tuned well with the mics placed properly) but i am look for that specific sound (really any of the stevie albums is what im looking for)
and no michael your not being an ass your right it is a broad question... and i like your theory (any decent kit tuned well with the mics placed properly) but i am look for that specific sound (really any of the stevie albums is what im looking for)
RezN8
Blick-um, blick-um...
Srv
I remember the drums on the "Couldn't Stand the Weather" recordings seemed to draw it's basic "flavor" from reverb. It sounded to me as if they were really letting the drums fill the open room, especially on "Voodoo Chile". Maybe that's what you're after?
If you already have a scratch track of your kit, why not experiment a little with a medium hall or medium sized room a bit and see if that leads you in the right direction.
Cheer, Rez
I remember the drums on the "Couldn't Stand the Weather" recordings seemed to draw it's basic "flavor" from reverb. It sounded to me as if they were really letting the drums fill the open room, especially on "Voodoo Chile". Maybe that's what you're after?
If you already have a scratch track of your kit, why not experiment a little with a medium hall or medium sized room a bit and see if that leads you in the right direction.
Cheer, Rez
Nick The Man
New member
thanks rez ill have to give that a shot
Nick The Man
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zbert what is the exact name of your customs kit ..what year is it from
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rweiss
New member
Just build your own kit god damnit.
www.drummaker.com
Oh, and I'm sure we can't emphasize the importance of head choice and tuning relative to the manufacturer and shell choice. If you've got a decent set you can get a *really* good sound if everything is tuned well, and I mean real well.
www.drummaker.com
Oh, and I'm sure we can't emphasize the importance of head choice and tuning relative to the manufacturer and shell choice. If you've got a decent set you can get a *really* good sound if everything is tuned well, and I mean real well.
zbert
In the swamps of Jersey
Nick
They are called Yamaha Recording customs.
The recording customs are from the early 90's. 10, 12, 13, 16, 22. No snare. I have 10 that I choose from depening on what sound I want.
Tom
They are called Yamaha Recording customs.
The recording customs are from the early 90's. 10, 12, 13, 16, 22. No snare. I have 10 that I choose from depening on what sound I want.
Tom
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Yareek
New member
I personally prefer maple but...
When I think of the SRV sound, I think of quick toms and punchy kicks, so I'm thinking a birch kit. They will have quicker decay than maple and a brighter sound. Now for most blues stuff I'd say older maple kits with rounded bearing edges are called for, but that's the difference between the '60s blues sound and the '80s SRV sound. The old blues guitarists used Gibson 335's and Les Pauls while SRV used a Strat. Likewise, the old drummers used maple or mahogany kits, while the SRV sound is more of a birch sound with some plate reverb.
So I'd either buy a newer birch kit (I really like Pacific kits, I've used one for over 50 shows and I still haven't changed the tom heads, sound great somehow) or an older high-end kit. The older kits tend to have the power toms and thicker shells / heavier hardware with less resonance due to the mounting style. So either way you'll get close to the sound. Personally I'd take the newer birch, but that's just me.
- Jarick
When I think of the SRV sound, I think of quick toms and punchy kicks, so I'm thinking a birch kit. They will have quicker decay than maple and a brighter sound. Now for most blues stuff I'd say older maple kits with rounded bearing edges are called for, but that's the difference between the '60s blues sound and the '80s SRV sound. The old blues guitarists used Gibson 335's and Les Pauls while SRV used a Strat. Likewise, the old drummers used maple or mahogany kits, while the SRV sound is more of a birch sound with some plate reverb.
So I'd either buy a newer birch kit (I really like Pacific kits, I've used one for over 50 shows and I still haven't changed the tom heads, sound great somehow) or an older high-end kit. The older kits tend to have the power toms and thicker shells / heavier hardware with less resonance due to the mounting style. So either way you'll get close to the sound. Personally I'd take the newer birch, but that's just me.
- Jarick
Tim Brown
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Any of them that are in round, and have a fairly decent and uniform bearing edge with good heads on them.
I know that's not what you wanted, but that's the basic truth.
Tim
I know that's not what you wanted, but that's the basic truth.
Tim
PhilGood
Juice box hero
The best drums for recording are the most expensive drums you can find! They should cost thousands upon thousands of dollars!! They should be SO expensive, you can actually look down your nose at the whole audience (other drummers in particular) while sitting behind them. (even when you're lower than the rest of the audience.) They should look as though if you left the studio, you'd be getting into a Lamborghini just to light one up!
Those will have the best sound!! If you can't brag about how much you paid, they aren't worth a crap!
No, really!! The director of marketing told me so! He said it's a fact!!
Those will have the best sound!! If you can't brag about how much you paid, they aren't worth a crap!
No, really!! The director of marketing told me so! He said it's a fact!!
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foreverain4
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Nick The Man said:
chances are, he did NOT use any of the sets mentioned above. you will need to think a little larger on this one...
Nick The Man
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yes i know he used the tama starclassics.... im just looking for an alternative because starclassics are too expensive