behringer or alesis?

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Hey,
I just bought a Delta 1010 card and am looking for a mixer with 8 mic pre's. I was thinking about using the Alesis 12R mixer but I have heard some bad things about it so... Anyway, I have also heard of the Behringer MX2004A. I was wondering if anybody knows about these two mixers. I would like to get some feedback.
Thanks
 
2nd on soundcraft. Especially the ones with the Ghost pres.
 
"Come on is the behringer THAT much worse than the mackie?"

only if your consience bothers you...or if you want it to last...

Mackie makes a lot of silly claims but their stuff is pretty tough

http://store4.yimg.com/I/mercenary-audio_1705_17386035

A pic of Fletcher's Famous " Shit on a Stick"
The story behind this is UNREAL!!! at the end, Alesis cried foul, but greg mackie said " he bought it he can do what he wants with it...I bet it still works "

I bet he's right

I hate the Mackie/Adat combo for what it did to people who do this for a LIVING, but the behringer stuff is even worse
 
To tell you the truth, I'm currently using the Behringer MX2004a, and it's not half bad. I bought it about 4 months ago, and you can achieve pretty good results with it. I bought the Joe Meek comp/preamp combo to do my vocals (this weekend), but we got the drums / bass / guitars to sound pretty damn decent. I'm still considering an upgrade, I just don't see why everyone is all about knocking Behringer? Is there a reason? Did Behringer's factories leak nuclear waste into pre-schools back in 1987? Did teenage mothers choke on their rack products? Someone help me out here, I'm just missing out on the whole "Hate Behringer" thing... everyone has to start out somewhere. =)
 
"Did Behringer's factories leak nuclear waste into pre-schools back in 1987? Did teenage mothers choke on their rack products?"

youre a lot closer than you think...go who look at who theyre made by and how.
Also the blatant ripoffs, and mackie's lawsuit against them didnt help.
 
I've got some Behringer stuff. It all works fine. No problems of any sort. My conscience is fine. Bunch of squawking hearsay I think. I think some people think it's cool. People who don't have a clue as to what they're talking about - who love to repeat what someone else says as though it were cosmic truth. The Moral Majority of the recording world. I think it's kinda funny. Another herd run amuck.
 
Alesis preamps are passable, but some of the others listed above are better.
The worst thing about the Studio 12R is that it only has a two band EQ. I used one for a few years and it did a pretty good job.
If you look around, you can find the Studio 24 or 32 on the cheap. I'd recommend those over the 12R because of more flexibility.
 
StevenLindsey said:
I've got some Behringer stuff. It all works fine. No problems of any sort. My conscience is fine. Bunch of squawking hearsay I think. I think some people think it's cool. People who don't have a clue as to what they're talking about - who love to repeat what someone else says as though it were cosmic truth. The Moral Majority of the recording world. I think it's kinda funny. Another herd run amuck.
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Well, said, I think. I have a Behringer MX802A mixer, and it hasn't even hinted at a problem in the last two years, since I bought it. My retailer supports me, so Behringer doesn't have to. My retailer has no problems with Behringer, nor has any more Behringer products come back than they do from other manufacturers - and they sell A LOT of it!

I also have the MDX2200 Composer Pro multi-channel compressor, and it's quite nice too. I'm sure there are better products out there, but their stuff is decent enough for most of us who "home" record vs. "pro" record.

As far as the lawsuit goes.... Mackie sued Behringer, as I understand it, claiming that Behringer stole their design for one of their mixers. (I can't help wondering that, if Mackie believed this to be true, they must have sounded remarkably similar too....) An expert was called in, and it was determined that the Behringer mixer was of completely different design. Behringer counter-sued Mackie.

Chris
 
Well from what I understand, it just seems to be prejudice passed on from the arrogant to the ignorant. =)

I hate to sound all philosophical, but it seems that many people just hate Behringer just cause, I don't think half the people that have criticized it have ever owned a Behringer product.

Let's face it, Mackie is Calvin Klein. =)

Lawsuits and pride aside, what's so wrong with Behringer... can anyone answer? =)
 
how is mackie calvin klein ?

its cheap crap...behringer is even cheaper crap

I own some behringer gear...a ultra curve and a omni testing mic. Also I think the ultrapatch patch bays are good for unbalanced setups...

but lets be real...when the eurodesks came out, behringer had chinese laborers build them and imported them so that they could bypass copyrights and patents. Remember what the lawsuit found ? Remember what they found as working conditions ? The little guy with his hands out holding back the tanks may VERY WELL have built your eurodesk...for FREE
 
As I say, I believe the lawsuit found that Behringer's design was not ripped off from Mackie, as many say it was. As I understand it, Behringer launched a counter-suit.

Chris
 
FURAX Eric said:
Let's face it, Mackie is Calvin Klein. =)

Lawsuits and pride aside, what's so wrong with Behringer... can anyone answer? =)
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This is by far the funniest quote I've ever seen on this forum.

Dude you just dropped your drawers and it's tiny.
 
I don't know... I think that a lot of people buy products because of a certain name, whether it be Gap, or Ford, or Mackie. At the same time, I believe that many people avoid certain products because of a lot of heresay that suggests that the products aren't worthy of consideration. When Japanese cars first came out, it took years before people stopped summarily using the phrase "Jap crap" and saw for themselves that they were putting out a good product. I don't wear Nike shoes. Maybe my shoes aren't as good as Nike's (or maybe they're better??), but, who cares? I paid less for them, and they get me to where I want to go.

Behringer makes a decent product. They won't compete with Neve. So what? Will Mackie? Maybe they're (Behringer) not as durable as Mackie. I don't know. Who cares? My mixer sits on my desk 95% of the time. Why would Mackie sue over design infringements unless the two products were really similar? Yet, everyone goes on about how crap Behringer is. Come on.... let's get past the rhetoric.

Chris
 
"I think that a lot of people buy products because of a certain name, whether it be Gap, or Ford, or Mackie"

If you think mackie is a respected brand name youre already crazy...my point was the behringer stuff is ( for the most part ) even worse.

"When Japanese cars first came out, it took years before people stopped summarily using the phrase "Jap crap" and saw for themselves that they were putting out a good product."

WRONG...it took years for them to come out with cars that WERENT crap

If I go out on the street right now I bet you I will see 10,000 or MORE pre 1973 american cars for every 1 pre 1980 japanese car...in fact I bet that number is closer to 100,000 to 1

"Why would Mackie sue over design infringements unless the two products were really similar?"

look at the silkscreen for the top, the layout, etc...
You cant possibly argue that behringer was trying to sell a NEW product, they were trying to capitalize on the look of the mackies, since they were selling like hotcakes. Both of these consoles are WAY below par for serious recording IMHO, although you could make a decent demo on either

However in the interests of being objective, tell me which behringer console you guys would compare to the mackie 32-8 and lets take a realistic look, and Im willing to be proven wrong
 
Behringer's quality control is where they got into trouble, & now a lot of guys simply don't trust the products.

If you think mackie is a respected brand name youre already crazy...my point was the behringer stuff is ( for the most part ) even worse.
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Well now, that was a good way to insult a large portion of this bbs in one fell swoop.

Perhaps you didn't realize that this is homerecording.com?

There are guys here recording through sound blaster 16s and through friggin' boom boxes... more fuckin' power to 'em, too.

Gear bashing doesn't go far around here. (At least for me.)
 
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