Blue Bear Sound said:
Steve's is the best place in town to buy gear.... but everything I buy they pretty much have to order in.... they have racks of Behringer stuff on their floor though!
Ottawa is a fairly large city, so to say that Steve's is the best place in town probably accurately suggests a certain amount of credibility. Also, I believe that they are affilliated with Steve's in Toronto (same sign, no?), which also gives them credibility. That was the very reason I asked Steve's in Toronto. I was obviously not buying anything that day, so the person there had nothing to gain by feeding me a line. What I did want to check out was that if the store I usually deal with was handing me a line, just so I could "buy now" whenever I went in there. Steve's answer only re-inforced what my store told me. In Toronto, though, they have tonnes of other stuff in-stock - a little something for everyone: Avalon, Focusrite, Alesis, Behringer, Joe Meek....
So.... they are a reputable store and they sell tonnes of Behringer stuff. The question is "why?" Are they recommending it? If it's crap, what are they doing to dissuade the buyer from buying stuff that will make them look bad, and instead, selling the customer a product that they will ultimately be happy with? Why do they even have so much of it in stock in the first place? They should just say "Behringer stuff is crap, but it's cheap. If you want cheap, we can order it for you and it will be here by the middle of next week."
The store I deal with recommends a lot of their stuff - given what the customer wants the product to do and their expected price range. They will tell you about other products that you might also be interested. I have every reason to believe their honesty. Two cases:
1. I have $1500 to spend. Should I upgrade my PII466 computer with Cubase VST/24 to Cubase SX, which will require me to buy a new computer. Or.. should I upgrade my Delta 44 soundcard and Behringer MX802 mixer to either an Aardvark Q10 or a Delta 1010 with another mixer - which may require a little more saving? He recommended the SX and computer upgrade first, which makes them absolutely no money whatsoever. He said later that he could get an Aardvark in for me instead if I wanted, but they don't stock them anymore, as customers have been less than happy with them. He even offered me the phone number (studio business, not his private #) of a client who owned one (a former major-label recording act) that I could discuss it with further. His recommendation meant the store making the money eventually, but not after I bought other products that they would make nothing from, and after I saved up a bit more money for
the UB2442FX-Pro that I would need after buying the Delta1010.
2. An earlier story.... I went in to buy my first mixer - the Behringer one mentioned above -
the MX802. I was expecting to pay more, as I had priced the little Mackie ones. He sold me the cheaper of the two products, as they were of basically the same quality, and one would save me a lot of money. If I was dissatisfied, he told me to bring it back, and I could exchange it by merely paying the difference between the two boards.
Hmm....
Ozraves... an interesting post, but maybe I'm missing what you're trying to say. I don't see the relevance to this thread.
Kryogh - good point.
Stefan E.- I've never heard anyone complain about the sound quality of Bon Jovi albums. They sound good to my ears.
Chris