Behringer B2031's or Event 20/20

[Mastermindzz]

I'm going to make a purchase on one, but which one ????

 

[Blue Bear Sound]

KRK V8s!

 

[Mastermindzz]

I guess I should have stated my cash flow, I only have about $400 to spend

 

[Slackmaster2K]

I can't speak for the Behringers, but that company certainly doesn't have the greatest reputation in terms of quality when it comes to a lot of their equipment. Event, on the other hand, does have a pretty fine reputation.

I own the 20/20's, and I find that their overall build quality is excellent. These are very rugged and sturdy monitors. They are quite heavy and sound solid if you tap on em. They are the first pair of monitors that I've ever owned, so take this with a grain of salt, but the sound of these things has really amazed me....and NOT in a "wow, that sounds great" kind of way, but in a "holy crap, I never noticed that" kind of way, with a whole bunch of "what in the hell was I thinking" sprinkled in I've found that mixes on my 20/20's have translated extremely well onto other systems. You will be very suprised at the things you can suddenly hear....and not just your mixes, but your room and your amp haha....yeesh, what a process this all is, eh?

One cool thing I've noticed about these 20/20's is that the bass doesn't really thump. If you primarily listen to music on home stereos and such, you're probably used to a big overemphisized bass. These monitors put the bass out, but it's very controlled and unemphisized...and I've found that it's forced (or allowed?) me to try to define and tighten up the low end of my mixes more, which is really critical and something I found that I wasn't (and arguably still am not) very good at. With a well defined low end, you can put the mix into that horrible car stereo with the bass cranked up or hardly any bass at all, and it'll still sound great.

Since I've bought the 20/20's, I've notice a lot of other names popping up, like Yorkville, who supposedly offer a monitor of equal quality for even less. You might not want to limit yourself to these two monitor choices. I will say, however, that even considering the praises for some of these other monitors that I didn't consider, I am still not unhappy that I spent $300 on the 20/20's. They are well-made, quality components.

Slackmaster 2000

 

[decoy7]

there's been many a word said about Behringer's products all over the web, i think the conclusion is that they're now reformed and off the bad stuff

...haven't heard the others but i can say i use Genelec 1030's & 1029's and when my mate purchased these Truths i was more than impressed...i had to call everyone i know and tell them the deal...only sad part is digitalvillage in the UK aren't getting any more in for now and don't know when they'll be back.

 

[Speeddemon]

Check this out

My monitor a/b-session:

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/Forum3/HTML/006635.html

The Behringers came out really well, especially given their price.
I would think twice too when considering any Genelec.
The lower-priced ones aren't worth their price (Berhinger touches them slighty, but for 1/3 of the price) and the higher priced ones are being kicked hard by the Mackie HR824.

 

[c9-2001]

i've mixed on most of the monitors mentioned... the Krk V88,Mackie 824, genelec 1031 and event 20/20...o and the truth's... i would love a monitor with the mids of the bass of the krk's, hi's of the genelec's, mid's of the behringers and the clean sound of the 20/20's

with $400 to spend...there is no reason not to get the truth monitors. the sound great i'll have my pair soon. the only problem i've ever heard and had was the splashyness of the hi's but after messing with the setting they'll sound great. other than that i'd say just get a decent amp and passive 20/20's...
http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/may01/articles/behringertruth.htm

 

[apush]

I was thinkin about getting the PS-6's myself (not reviewed below). My birthday is coming up (March 29th, feel free to buy them for me if you want). But I have read millions of good reviews on them.

Here's a review of some of the major monitors out there:
http://www.prorec.com/prorec/articles.nsf/articles/28903E8954A7B37A86256AE10011E556

After trying most of these out myself in different studios I've come to take this review as gosple. This guy has been dead-on. But I think he should have ripped on the Rolands a bit more. I have had no luck mixing on these. Even when i knew(heard) they had no bass response, and tried to adjust to them, my mixing still came out muddy and boomy. Shit-T!

 

[c9-2001]

i i don't really like the that review much, i mean they gave the V8's an F and the truths a D+ saying "Extended low bass was somewhat lacking in this speaker" WTF... i have a track that peaks at 23hz. most of the bass is around 30-38hz(deep bass) the truths picked it up and sounded good at high volumes playing the song, not to mention they were shaking the control room. when my group recorded their vocals on the track we did it at my partners studio(he runs the Mackie's)
i couldn't even turn the track up b/c the bass was sound sloppy and the speaker was almost at peak excursion(at low volumes) at high volumes the track sounded like sh!t. the sound was real distorted....under nuendo at the othe studio the bass was at -.2.3 and his studio with nuendo i had to put the bass to -13.7 to even make it sound good. then when i played it back in my dad's truck, the track had no bass but the dry kick i used.

the ppl that need to do reviews should be the avg. person like most of us and my boy Mastermindzz. everyone's ears are different, but to say "The HR824 definitely wins the Mo Bass award. In the right listening position, you'd just swear that there's a sub somewhere. Unlike the ported models (most of which produced some port chuff at high bass levels) WTH he doesn't know anything about boxes i guess... a ported box is 3db louder than a sealed one and IF tuned right(usually low-under 40hz) they will have great sq....along with spl..

my picks:
1: KRK V88
2: Genelec 1031a
3:Behringer-Mackie (DRAW)
4:Event 20/20

 

[Speeddemon]

the ppl that need to do reviews should be the avg. person like most of us

Uhh...I'm your average Joe AND did an A/B-test. Did you read it?

my picks:
1: KRK V88
2: Genelec 1031a
3:Behringer-Mackie (DRAW)
4:Event 20/20

Can't comment (YET) on the KRK's and the Events, but listing the Genelecs ABOVE the Mackies....hmm... not my pick.

I also find it strange that your "ideal" monitor would have the mids of the Behringer Truths. Compared to the Mackie HR824's, the Behringer is quite LACKING mids.
I agree that it's one of the best speakers in it's priceclass though...

 

[Blue Bear Sound]

IAfter trying most of these out myself in different studios I've come to take this review as gosple. This guy has been dead-on.

I disagree, some of his reviews certainly don't seem to apply to some of the monitors I've tested....... and most notably the V8s in my case, since I found they outperformed everything I compared them to at the time (Mackie 824s, Yamaha Msp10, Tannoy Reveals, Behringer Truth - by a mile!, Spirit, Fostex, ROland.... etc...)

About the worst way to judge a monitor is to go by what a review says.... monitors selection is EXTREMELY subjective.

Bruce

 

[c9-2001]

I also find it strange that your "ideal" monitor would have the mids of the Behringer Truths. Compared to the Mackie HR824's, the Behringer is quite LACKING mids.
I agree that it's one of the best speakers in it's priceclass though...

i was mixing a track for 2 hours yesterday on the mackie 824, they aren't all that, the sound was kinda muddy, though when i finished the mix at my man's studio with krk v88's the mix sounded great, deep lows, clean not muddy mids and clear hi's. the triplets were perfect though with the Mackie's the hi hats were sounding poppy...

 

[Drummerbones]

I recommend Coke over Pepsi because it tastes better to me.....

Maybe I'm being an ass, but at least I made my point!

 

[Speeddemon]

i was mixing a track for 2 hours yesterday on the mackie 824, they aren't all that, the sound was kinda muddy, though when i finished the mix at my man's studio with krk v88's the mix sounded great, deep lows, clean not muddy mids and clear hi's. the triplets were perfect though with the Mackie's the hi hats were sounding poppy...

I was talking about the mids of the Truths and the HR824's, not KRKV88 vs. HR824's.
I cannot comment on the KRK's, but compared with the Behringers, the Mackies have far better mids.
I do hear ya on the muddiness. The low-end of the Mackies are a bit slow (compared to Genelecs 1031A's).

 

[c9-2001]

with the behrigher's the mids are nice and clean, they could be a little fuller but they aren't muddy like the mackie's. i'm not gonna take anything away from the mackie's though, now that i listen to the mix i did with the mackie's in my truck it sounds great. i want a little more bass in the mix, but when mixing with the mackie's and i tern the volume and bass up the monitors sound distorted as hell. my mix with the behringer's seems like its missing something but its clear, has great lows and its an overall decent mix. with the mix i did on the krk's's.... i have no damn hi's at all, but it sounded good while i was mixing...??? the mix is a little strong on the mids also when i play it back in my truck.
i have some of the best speakers money can buy in my truck(Focal Utopia/Digital Designs) so i trust all these mixes. i wish Focal would make some monitors