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Great effort. I like the vocal.
My complaint is that it doesn't sound like it's been mastered. You(we) are supposed to get others to master, but it doesn't hurt to do a bit yourself to get the feel for it, because it does affect levels. I am assuming that is why this lacks a bit of space and sparkle.
My complaint is that it doesn't sound like it's been mastered. You(we) are supposed to get others to master, but it doesn't hurt to do a bit yourself to get the feel for it, because it does affect levels. I am assuming that is why this lacks a bit of space and sparkle.
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saads
Baka
I think the vocals are a little too loud, and there could be a little more kick drum. I like the vocals; cool mellow song overall.
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Thanks saads. I can see a weekend of mixing/(attempted)mastering coming on
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I liked the vocal sound too, quite nice and warm sounding, although slightly out of tune in a couple of spots.
I wasnt a fan of the guitar sound too much,and it could have been played tighter, and the bass( and guitar too I guess) is quite far back in the mix and muddy sounding.
I quite liked the song overall though
I wasnt a fan of the guitar sound too much,and it could have been played tighter, and the bass( and guitar too I guess) is quite far back in the mix and muddy sounding.
I quite liked the song overall though
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Frank, also think about space.
For a simple example, use stereo to push the guitars wider.
You can pan duplicates of the same mono guitar track hard left and right, and add a very small delay or pitch shift (or eq or whatever) to one side. This will create a whole new space for the guitar which will help the vocal come down the middle. Make sure the mix still works in mono, because the spread may have phasing problems, or be competing with other sounds in a way that isn't apparent in the stereo spread.
But also don't be a slave to mono, most of your listener's will have stereo.
For a simple example, use stereo to push the guitars wider.
You can pan duplicates of the same mono guitar track hard left and right, and add a very small delay or pitch shift (or eq or whatever) to one side. This will create a whole new space for the guitar which will help the vocal come down the middle. Make sure the mix still works in mono, because the spread may have phasing problems, or be competing with other sounds in a way that isn't apparent in the stereo spread.
But also don't be a slave to mono, most of your listener's will have stereo.
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This is all great stuff guys. Thanks a LOT
(the singer is coming round to redo a couple of bits
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(the singer is coming round to redo a couple of bits
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heatmiser
mr. green christmas
I like the vocalist's approach here very much despite whatever pitch issues may crop up here and there.
For me, the mix sounds ok, but kind of smallish in terms of the spread of the instruments. I'd like to hear more aggressive panning myself. Also, for me there is an excess of some high to upper mid frequencies going on here. The cymbals and the guitars have a certain harshness to the highs and the decay on the cymbals sounds unnatural to me. If that region could be smoothed out a bit I think it could help. Sorry to be so vague...I like the recording, just some things I think that could be improved.
For me, the mix sounds ok, but kind of smallish in terms of the spread of the instruments. I'd like to hear more aggressive panning myself. Also, for me there is an excess of some high to upper mid frequencies going on here. The cymbals and the guitars have a certain harshness to the highs and the decay on the cymbals sounds unnatural to me. If that region could be smoothed out a bit I think it could help. Sorry to be so vague...I like the recording, just some things I think that could be improved.
Manslick
Road
More kick.
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sonicpsyops
Culture Of Convenience
Did anybody ever tell you you sound a little like Morrissey? At least that's what I'm reminded of when I hear this. I mean that as a compliment by the way. I'd have to agree with everyone else about the kick. Try some ducking compression to bring. That's a mixing technique that mastering won't fix.
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Awesome guys, thanks.
I've done a few of these and it is SO much better already.......
I've done a few of these and it is SO much better already.......
kcearl
I see deaf people
Frank..to get back to basics a simple way to approach mixing to begin with is to first bring your kick up to a -12dbs level (try to keep the entire mix around this)
Then bring the bass up to match this....these will drive the track, use the volume and EQ to get their relationship tight...then bring up the rest of the drums.
Keep the snare pretty much centre but spread the hats and cymbals out..think of how the drum kit looks, its all around the 10 o clock to 2 spread. Pan like this
You can either bring the vocals in now or the rest makes no difference..remember the guitars can be spread out..rather than duplicating the guits, retrack them and layer it out..Ive heard normal records that actually had 14 layers of acoustic guitar!..most in here have four or five..think about that stage again...is the guitarist and keyboard player standing right next to the singer or are they spread out?
If a frequency is on top of another then try a bit of EQ..if its still on top of each other a little delay or reverb will give it space
but dont do anything unless you need to (very important)
watch the volume level, fader creep is common, rather than boost an instrument, bring another down..just dont touch the bass and kick relationship..thats your rock
Once you bounce it down, stick a stereo compressor on it and then use a limiter to bring up the volume, dont push it too hard, your not mastering the next Metallica album
This is a very basic approach at starting mixing, and just my approach, there are many others... but it will improve on the result you are getting just now..