Badly tracked drums

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Hello, all

I've finally got the chance to track real drums, boy, it took forever to position the mics. Due to the rush and circumstance at the time, the mic for the kick wasn't recorded by accident :eek: So there were just 2 OHs placed by Mixerman's technique (one straigh above the snare, one over the drummer's right shoulder)

I've quite suceesfully recovered the kick sound by cloning the OH tracks and cut off everything but the kick and EQed it to get the kick thicker and louder in the mix. On top of that, I've also used the NY compression trick to beef the drum sound up a bit.

My question is, is there any other trick that people use to make badly tracked drums better?? For example, I've read somewhere that some master enginners use a technique called M/S somehting to bring up the vocal in a stereo mix without having the soloed vocal track. I was thinking, maybe something similiar can get the snare sound better, right now it's a little "loose"

Any thoughts appreciated

Al
 
Panning a kit towards mono will often sound much denser and focused. Or maybe you could do a mono version of the kit and bring that up in the NY style.:D
Wayne
 
My reccomendation: erase it and start over! I know it will suck but at least you won't be kicking yourself in the ass later when you come to find out that you just can't get them to sound right!
 
erase it and start over! I know it will suck but at least you won't be kicking yourself in the ass later when you come to find out that you just can't get them to sound right!
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I agree. The time spent trying to get these drums sounding good you could be retracking getting it right from the start.

P.S.- make sure you record the kick drum next time:D

Tukkis :)
 
mixist,

that's something I didn't think of. Thanks!

13th&Tukkis

you guys are right, but the drummer is only on the other side of the planet:D and I don't have access to a drumset/drummer here...

thanks anyway tho

Al
 
I would try Mixsit's advice. If that doesn't do the trick then you might have to cut up some loops out of the drum tracks and mix in some samples for a beefier kick and snare.
 
Ok, guys, if would be really great if you could take a moment and listen to what I've got so far. Everything besides the drum is just thrown in there for now, but please give me some feeback on the drum sound.

It starts out pretty mono, but after the second measure is what I need opinions on.

Thank you!

ps, Tex, yes, using samples is my last solution, but I would like to try not using samples unless I really have to.

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Al
 
I don't think there will be much you can do to save the snare. It doesn't sound awful, but it is kind've hard to pick snare out of the mix.
 
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