autotuned to death

[ikijapan]

You have to select the part of the track you want to tune. Once you have made the selection, preview will play it. I suggest selecting a phrase at a time.

OK, but then how do you hear the corrections you made? Do you have to just apply it and then if it's off redo it? And how do you make sure the autotune start point is the same as the playback start point? It seems to get off for me. Do you have to make sure you select a portion of audio IMMEDIATELY before a word starts or something?

For example if I have a song that goes from F# to B on the melody, when I correct it, sometimes the F# correction kicks in on the B and the B on the next note, it's just all off, like some weird delay.

 

[Farview]

OK, but then how do you hear the corrections you made? Do you have to just apply it and then if it's off redo it? And how do you make sure the autotune start point is the same as the playback start point? It seems to get off for me. Do you have to make sure you select a portion of audio IMMEDIATELY before a word starts or something?

For example if I have a song that goes from F# to B on the melody, when I correct it, sometimes the F# correction kicks in on the B and the B on the next note, it's just all off, like some weird delay.

You select the part you want to correct, tune it to the grid. (assuming you know what note should be hit) process it and play it back in the mix.

 

[ikijapan]

You select the part you want to correct, tune it to the grid. (assuming you know what note should be hit) process it and play it back in the mix.

OK, so there's no way to quickly hear just the vocal before applying, that way I could make sure the vibrato corrections dont sound weird or something?

I'm trying this right now

 

[Farview]

OK, so there's no way to quickly hear just the vocal before applying, that way I could make sure the vibrato corrections dont sound weird or something?

I'm trying this right now

You hit preview and it will play the vocal with the corrections that you made.

 

[noisewreck]

BTW ikijapan, Offline Audio processing is covered very thoroughly in the Cubase help system

 

[ikijapan]

BTW ikijapan, Offline Audio processing is covered very thoroughly in the Cubase help system

Thanks guys. I'm working on it between actual work right at this moment. First tests came through bad though. I divided off a phrase onto a seperate track, hit track and then preview. All info came in fine. I went in and corrected all the spots and even corrected some to WAY wrong notes to see if it was working. Hit apply, it asked me if this was a new event or continue to apply it to the current track. I hit continue, and played it back in cubase and no changes were applied.

I'm still messing around though, so don't go crazy typing out too much yet. I must be getting closer.

 

[Farview]

I divided off a phrase onto a seperate track, hit track and then preview.

Don't do that. Just double click on the track. When it opens up the edit window, select a phrase (highlight it by holding down the mouse button and dragging it sideways) Autotune will play that section into it. Correct that section. Now highlight another phrase, rinse, repeat.


You have to make sure that you are editing the take that is on top. If you have multiple layers of vocals, you only hear the one on top. Make sure that that is the one that you are editing.

 

[ikijapan]

Don't do that. Just double click on the track. When it opens up the edit window, select a phrase (highlight it by holding down the mouse button and dragging it sideways) Autotune will play that section into it. Correct that section. Now highlight another phrase, rinse, repeat.


You have to make sure that you are editing the take that is on top. If you have multiple layers of vocals, you only hear the one on top. Make sure that that is the one that you are editing.

Hey now, that's not how Mix master Kenny Gioia did it on youtube!!

haha, just kidding by the way. He was using protools, so I'm sure it works a lot differently.

I'll try it this way during lunch here in about an hour or two.

 

[ikijapan]

Don't do that. Just double click on the track. When it opens up the edit window, select a phrase (highlight it by holding down the mouse button and dragging it sideways) Autotune will play that section into it. Correct that section. Now highlight another phrase, rinse, repeat.


You have to make sure that you are editing the take that is on top. If you have multiple layers of vocals, you only hear the one on top. Make sure that that is the one that you are editing.

Sweet jimbo, it finally worked! I've got it working just fine...but crap, it still sounds like autotune, especially when it's not in the mix with a bunch of instruments.

Do you guys usually draw a straight line across the correct note? Or do you try to match the wave as it is, just closer to the original note? I'm talking about notes within a half step of course.

How do you guys handle this when there is a solo vocal part, or the instruments drop out and there's just vocals and cello or something? I mean hell, if they can use this thing on Paris hilton and Backstreet Boys and Ricky martin, then I should be able to get a rock singer that's on pitch 90% of the way without it sounding all weird, right??

 

[Farview]

Do you guys usually draw a straight line across the correct note? Or do you try to match the wave as it is, just closer to the original note? I'm talking about notes within a half step of course.

Go back and read post #3 in this thread. Drawing a straight line sonds like crap most of the time.

Make sure you don't have the speed set too high.

 

[ikijapan]

Go back and read post #3 in this thread. Drawing a straight line sonds like crap most of the time.

Make sure you don't have the speed set too high.

Ah, ok, got it. I thought that was more for the vibrato parts (which on this song are REALLY wide Alice in Chains like vibrato), but it sounds like I should use that for the other notes as well. The thing I am concerned about, is that on some of the diminished arpeggios he is doing, they are really quick to jump from one note to the other, and I hope it retunes it quick enough so that it doesnt sound like he is going from one note to another on the same note (which is what it is sounding like now with the default speed setting of 25 i believe). But I just need to play with it more.

I'll update when I play around more, but I'm now REALLY in the right direction (I can use it that is, haha)

 

[Farview]

The thing I am concerned about, is that on some of the diminished arpeggios he is doing, they are really quick to jump from one note to the other, and I hope it retunes it quick enough so that it doesnt sound like he is going from one note to another on the same note (which is what it is sounding like now with the default speed setting of 25 i believe).

YOu will need to highlight each of those note individually, make the curve, then move it to the note it needs to be. If it doesn't track fast enough, you can raise the speed setting. (when the curve matches the natural performance, it won't sound sythetic)

 

[Webb]

Hello - my name is Webb and I can't sing. I know the evils of Autotune, but I'm hoping to get some decent scratch vocals down until I get a real singer. That being said, I want to mess around with Autotune for the fun of it.

In the first post, there is a link to a tutorial for the graphical mode. However, it seems like a dead-link now. Can anyone recommend a decent tutorial I could check out or give me some pointer in the graphic mode? Thanks!

 

[ikijapan]

Hello - my name is Webb and I can't sing. I know the evils of Autotune, but I'm hoping to get some decent scratch vocals down until I get a real singer. That being said, I want to mess around with Autotune for the fun of it.

In the first post, there is a link to a tutorial for the graphical mode. However, it seems like a dead-link now. Can anyone recommend a decent tutorial I could check out or give me some pointer in the graphic mode? Thanks!

Well, you might have wanted to start a new post...this one is a couple months old now...but anyways, after thoroughly reading the advice Farview already left here, you should be able to use autotune just fine like me.

Also, the comment you made about not being able to sing is quite discouraging, because autotune definitely doesn't help you to sing if you can't already. You have to be pretty damn close for it to work well, and it's certainly not going to add emotion, phrasing, and tone.

That youtube demo of how to use autotune seems to have been removed, so not sure of another demo...you really just have to go in there and use it about a hundred times until you start to get it. And I'm not really joking.

Also, I would recommend just doing 3 or 4 words at a time until you understand how it works.