Audio and midi problems

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TamaSabian

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Here´s my problem:

1. Create a drum pattern from the piano roll view, copy and paste way.
2. Arm an audio track to record vocals or instrument
3. Result, no audio recorded. I check the SB Console and everything it´s ok. If I open a new project and then arm the audio track I can record. The problem is when I put some midi on the project.

Help please.
 
I think it´s my PC

I don´know what´s happening here but I just opened a project that I was working in and.........I could put some audio signal!!!. It´s very strange I think it´s my pc

Here´s what i got:

Intel PIII 500Mhz
64 RAM
20 GB HD
SB Live! 5.1 OEM
CREATIVE LABS VODOO BANSHEE 3D
WIN 98 SE

Another question:

In order to record audio signal from an instrument or vocals the midi track created on piano roll view (copy, paste way) could cause no audio recording???. Maybe it´s some stupid question but I´m trying to find a reason why I can´t put audio and midi together (in the same project). I was starting to think that I have to play not copy and paste the pattern to record audio for the project.

Thanks
 
Sorry, TamaSabian, but I don't know what you're asking either.

First, you certainly can mix audio and midi together in the same project. But it's not clear to me what you mean about "copying and pasting" drum patters in the Piano Roll View. Where are you copying the patterns from??

Regardless, this should not have any effect on your ability to record audio - unless it is effecting the way you have your Windows Mixer set-up. You need to be sure the recording source in the Windows mixer is "line in" (or whatever port you are connected to), not Midi In.
 
TamaSabian,

Dachay2nr and AlChuck, having both gentlemen post in your thread is a great honour. If these two guys don't know what your question is, no one does:)

Post back what you are trying to do in more detail, as they say, you can use midi and audio in the same project, your computer specification is fine.
 
TamaSabian said:
Here´s my problem:

1. Create a drum pattern from the piano roll view, copy and paste way.
2. Arm an audio track to record vocals or instrument
3. Result, no audio recorded. I check the SB Console and everything it´s ok. If I open a new project and then arm the audio track I can record. The problem is when I put some midi on the project.

Help please.
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I, for one, had a shitload of problems recording with my new INCA88. I thought it was the card that was causing all the problems, but it turned out (since I'm from Norway) that Cakewalks products only supports english caracters in the tracknames (or any other places you can write a text).

So I was trying to record vocals on a guy named Bjørnar and a couple of other friends. I named the track , "Vocal - Kjetil", "Vocal - Bjørnar" and so on... The other tracks recorded fine for a couple of bars, then Sonar stopped and refused to record at all. Tech Support told me to avoid using anything but english caracters and I've never had a problem recording since then.

I just thought that maybe this applied to you, TamaSabian, as I see you're from Peru. Maybe you're using some strange types as Æ, Ø and Å?
 
I´ll try to explain

Thank you very much for your interest, I know you could help me if I could explain better. So here I go.......

When I create a drum pattern by clicking each note on piano roll view, I mean first the bass drum, then the snare, etc. Using the mouse to fill each note, then copy and paste to repeat the beat until I got 16 measures (for example). Then I arm the audio track and sing to the mic, the led indicators flashes normally I can hear my voice through the speakers, when I stop the record I see the track without wave signal just 3 lines NO AUDIO, NO VOICE RECORDED!!!.

I never give up so I check everywhere trying to find an answer, then I realize that playing the pattern instead of creating it using the mouse to put each note allows me to record audio.!!!

But, today, I split the long pattern that I´ve created yesterday because the problem continues, I think that if I cut it and paste some measures in another midi track, then I could record audio. I did it and it works!!!.

The lenght of the pattern could be the answer to this problem????

I don´t know what it is. Hope it´s more clear for you now.

Thanks
 
when I stop the record I see the track without wave signal just 3 lines NO AUDIO, NO VOICE RECORDED!!!
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Sounds like it could be a problem with your SoundBlaster. Have you updated the drivers for it?
 
The length of the pattern is irrelevant. It also doesn't sound like a driver problem to me at all.

Where are you trying to record the audio? You can't record into the same track the drum parts are in -- that is a MIDI track. The sound will still pass through the sound card through to the speakers, whether you record it or not or enable a track or not -- so the fact that you hear the vocal while you think you are recording it is also irrelevant to the problem. You need to have an audio track set up with the right source -- the SB Live WAV In, it's called, and there's one for the Left side of the input, one for the right side, and one for a stereo track (left and right to a single stereo track). The Line In or Mic In must be enabled for recording in the Windows mixer utility to be able to record. It's all in that Cakewalk article about the Windows mixer that two or three of us have been suggesting that you read...

All of this is also in the manual and help system...
 
No solution???

Al Chuck maybe it looks like I don´t know how to setup a track or select the input but that´s not true. I´ve read the help from SONAR, and check the article that you mentioned. I searched for new drivers also. Uninstall and install SONAR again, my SBLive too. But nothing seems to work.

Yesterday I recorded me playing peruvian CAJON, then in another audio track I played a cowbell pattern. Everything was fine until I deleted the cowbell because I wanted to play another CAJON pattern instead, muting the first one. Then I´ll choose one of those takes. When I armed the track the signal was ok, press record, I played some measures, but nothing get recorded. Another thing that happened on the same project was that I can´t hear what I´ve played first (CAJON pattern). I click play but SONAR doesn´t play and the audio track 1 shows me that there is my CAJON pattern I can see it, it´s a blue wave signal!!!.

Why I can record audio one time, two times, three times, but for some strange reason I can´t do it anymore (I´m talking about the same project). When I open a new project everything it´s fine.

Do you think it could be RAM I got 64Mb???.
 
Yesterday I recorded me playing peruvian CAJON,
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Did you record this as an audio track or as a midi pattern?

Is it Sonar you are using or an older version of Cakewalk? Its not because you are trying to record too many tracks at once?
 
What's your MIDI device ? external or Soundfonts / Sytnh emulated ? SONAR somehow NOT handling MIDI very good. It's too bad they focus for audio when create it while leaving MIDI part unprior. :( I have to click over and over to my audio port to make sure it works for recording. Have you tried attaching soundfonts bank, and the sound still doesn't change until you hit the track's MIDI out port again and again ? That happens to me...

Also check your Creative's Audio HQ --> device control, and make sure you didn't limit the wave out to 2 files only...
 
Oh yeah...
Where did you manage to put your audio files (Directory in Options --> Audio --> Advance ). And when you record the audio, can you see the track's record monitor indicator showing the signal as you record 'em ?
 
I don´t know exactly were my audio files are located, but when I save them I go to the Cakewalk directory that is created by default. The same that remains when you uninstall the software. I´m not saving my files on SONAR´s default directory.

Yes, I see the signal while I´m recording.

Is there any problem with files location???.
 
So let me understand this. You record Cajon with a microphone in an audio channel in Sonar, you can see the levels move as you play the Cajon and when you finish recording you can see the wave file. You can then play it back okay.
When you go to ceate a drum pattern in a midi track, you paste the pattern you want and thats when your problems start?

When you try to play back the midi track, it does not play a sound and then it seems to wipe your audio file recording too?
 
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