Audigy 2 Platnium??

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anybody using this? How is it ? I dont know much about using my computer for music but I recently got propeller head's reason and cool edit 2.0 .I have a midi keyboard I will be using with the reason and I want to record vocals in cool edit.Will I need to get a mixer to run my mic and monitors into or can I plug it all into the soundcard.If this sounds retarded I am sorry as I said I am new to using my computer for music.

My computer is a Dell Dimension 440o 1.6Gz intel 4 processor 128 ddr ram

Thank you for the help in advance
 
Arcatek said:
anybody using this? How is it ? I dont know much about using my computer for music but I recently got propeller head's reason and cool edit 2.0 .I have a midi keyboard I will be using with the reason and I want to record vocals in cool edit.Will I need to get a mixer to run my mic and monitors into or can I plug it all into the soundcard.If this sounds retarded I am sorry as I said I am new to using my computer for music.

My computer is a Dell Dimension 440o 1.6Gz intel 4 processor 128 ddr ram

Thank you for the help in advance
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For the price of the card you mention, you can buy yourself a card which would be better in the long run. Creative thinks they are going to make it in the DAW market, but their R&D mentality is still based on their original gaming background.


The M-Audio Audiophile 2496 can be bought for $150 and will give you true 24-bit recording and better quality DAC's (Digital to Analog Converters).

This card will make a world of difference as its ASIO drivers (what Reason uses) will perform much better than the Audigy drivers - the Audigy 2 ASIO drivers are limited to only 16bit/48Khz functionality.

If you are taking the computer recording thing seriously, I would consider upgrading your RAM. 512Mb is probably the acceptable minimum these days.

http://www.m-audio.com/products/m-audio/audiophile.php (disregard the MSRP - that is not the current retail price in stores)

Regardless of which card you end up using, you should plug your mic into a preamp and then that would feed into your line level input.
 
AUDIGY 2 PLATINUM

Yes i had the pleasure of finding one about a month ago@ Best Buy,wel i can tell you IT DOES record@ 24-96,BUT only 2-mono files or one stereo file @ a time,and YES IT DOES play back @ 24-196,which i believe is DVD audio quality(VERY AWESOME),much more capable than AUDIGY 1(which i also own)...,I bought this card so when i record drums at 24-bit with my MOTU 896 i can go home and add my guitar trax at 24-bit via AUDIGY 2,and so i can have a semi decent playback system @ home..I can also comment on that it's got optikal in+out,digital in+out,rca in+out,mic in...This card is paired up with my Monsoon 505 sereis 5.1 speakers and sounds very clean and clear,but if you don't need all those different ins and outs i would highly recommend MIA 24-96,it'a also a 200$ sound card w/2-gtr. jack style inputs and 2 outputs,also with a digital in and out...This card i would say does sound more pro w/out a doubt!!! GOOD LUCK!!!
 
creative is widely known to have some pretty crummy results in terms of fidelity when compared to similar products. however, if you're wanting a card to play games that you can monkey around on, the audigy 2 is probably a great choice. i record on my live, and despite all the negativity here, with a little creativity, i can get some pretty clean tracks.

the m-audio is really pleasing a lot of people. if MUSIC is what you're after, get it. if you want music AND games, maybe run it and a cheaper, more game-oriented card. may require some tweaking, but it's doable.
 
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LEADGTRPLAYR said:
Yes i had the pleasure of finding one about a month ago@ Best Buy,wel i can tell you IT DOES record@ 24-96,BUT only 2-mono files or one stereo file
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It does indeed record 24bit audio but not if you are using ASIO drivers/apps like Cubase or Reason. It only supports ASIO not ASIO 2.0 which means it is limited to 16bit/48kHz functionality.

You also mention the Mia, but unlike the Audiophile the Mia does not have MIDI ports.
 
AUDIGY 2

Opps did i also for get to mention Audigy has front In and Out ports on the front bay??, does playback at 24-192,Hmmmm don't think the M-audio playback is past 24-96??And as far quality goes,if i recorded something with this Audigy @24-bit and then something else thats around 200$(anything)I own this awesome card and does sound and record the ballsAnd as far as aiso goes,well I just recorded 24-bit trax on the motu,and the Audigy plays em so,i guess if you do not own one of these bad boys,you'll only know what you read and then think what u know,Audigy's only limitation is this 1 stereo or 2 mono trax can be recorded at a time for someone who needs to do touch up work at home this thing is Heaven Sent.......I own,Motu,Mia and 2 Audigy's,if i did a recording on all of them @ 24-bit you all think your gonna know the difference???I would highly doubt it!!! And yes i agree,no midi ports on Mia,but if you only record REAL instruments like myself why would you even need midi and for all who think the M-audio isdabomb well this is a review i just clipped jus 4 u!!!"Totally unpredictable. Where is the support?"
I have owned this card for 6 months now, and have already wasted hours and hours trying (a) to get support, but am met with silence, (b) trying to get it to work. About getting it to work: it seems that whatever I try and do to get it to work is irrelevant. It works when it wants to, doesn't work when it doesn't want to, and gives no hint as to what 'turns it on' or 'off'. I have tried almost everything, but am still in the dark. When it does deign to work it is clicky, and therefore useless. I am fed up with the device and with the lack of support.
 
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LEADGTRPLAYR said:
Opps did i also for get to mention Audigy has front In and Out ports on the front bay??, does playback at 24-192,Hmmmm don't think the M-audio playback is past 24-96??And as far quality goes,if i recorded something with this Audigy @24-bit and then something else thats around 200$(anything)I own this awesome card and does sound and record the ballsAnd as far as aiso goes,well I just recorded 24-bit trax on the motu,and the Audigy plays em so,i guess if you do not own one of these bad boys,you'll only know what you read and then think what u know,Audigy's only limitation is this 1 stereo or 2 mono trax can be recorded at a time for someone who needs to do touch up work at home this thing is Heaven Sent.......I own,Motu,Mia and 2 Audigy's,if i did a recording on all of them @ 24-bit you all think your gonna know the difference???I would highly doubt it!!! And yes i agree,no midi ports on Mia,but if you only record REAL instruments like myself why would you even need midi and for all who think the M-audio isdabomb well this is a review i just clipped jus 4 u!!!"Totally unpredictable. Where is the support?"
I have owned this card for 6 months now, and have already wasted hours and hours trying (a) to get support, but am met with silence, (b) trying to get it to work. About getting it to work: it seems that whatever I try and do to get it to work is irrelevant. It works when it wants to, doesn't work when it doesn't want to, and gives no hint as to what 'turns it on' or 'off'. I have tried almost everything, but am still in the dark. When it does deign to work it is clicky, and therefore useless. I am fed up with the device and with the lack of support.
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Whoa, a little on the defensive side, aren't we?

You're missing the whole point of Arcatek's original post. He does not have a $1000 MOTU interface to record with so if he is only using Reason with the Audigy 2, he will have no way of working with 24bit audio.

Most DAW software does not support 192kHz so what's the benefit of having that?

Finally, Arcatek does need MIDI if you read his initial post. BTW, those front panel MIDI ports on the Audigy are a total waste anyways. You still have to buy a MIDI adapter cable because the ports are mini-DIN ports and not your standard MIDI connectors.

Please don't quote one person's post as some kind of proof that M-Audio products are crap. I have been using their products for over a year with no problems and tons of other people on this forum can say the same.
 
Audigy's only limitation is this 1 stereo or 2 mono trax can be recorded at a time
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The Audigy 2 has a noise floor at -94 dB at 24bit, and that's supposed to be good for a 24 bit card?

The other thing is Creatives drivers. Creative have never produced a good, working driver for all uses. Yeah, they work for games, but for more serious recording? Forget about it...

I own,Motu,Mia and 2 Audigy's
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If you own a Motu and a Mia, what do you use 2 Audigys for? Do you have both Audigys in your computer at the same time? How did you do that? That would be a nice trick to learn. :)

Finally, Arcatek does need MIDI if you read his initial post. BTW, those front panel MIDI ports on the Audigy are a total waste anyways. You still have to buy a MIDI adapter cable because the ports are mini-DIN ports and not your standard MIDI connectors.
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Acutally, the Audigy 2 has standard MIDI-connectors...
 
moskus said:
The Audigy 2 has a noise floor at -94 dB at 24bit, and that's supposed to be good for a 24 bit card?

The other thing is Creatives drivers. Creative have never produced a good, working driver for all uses. Yeah, they work for games, but for more serious recording? Forget about it...

If you own a Motu and a Mia, what do you use 2 Audigys for? Do you have both Audigys in your computer at the same time? How did you do that? That would be a nice trick to learn. :)

Acutally, the Audigy 2 has standard MIDI-connectors...
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Not according to picture 006 on this page:

http://www.soundblaster.com/products/audigy2/gallery.asp

Is it a misprint?
 
I might be mistaken, but I've read a review somewhere (I'll try to dig it up) that said "We were rather pleased with Audigy 2s drive bay because it has standard MIDI-connectors. Don't need the small-to-big MIDI-connectors anymore"...

Maybe they've changed it?
 
Hey moskus! You got to say it like you're one of the Sopranos, a mafia soldier from New Jersey. "Fuhgeddaboudit!"
-kent
 
knownuttin said:
Hey moskus! You got to say it like you're one of the Sopranos, a mafia soldier from New Jersey. "Fuhgeddaboudit!"
-kent
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:D LOL! I'll try that next time...
 
knownuttin said:
Hey moskus! You got to say it like you're one of the Sopranos, a mafia soldier from New Jersey. "Fuhgeddaboudit!"
-kent
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:D LOL! I'll try that next time...
 
moskus said:
The Audigy 2 has a noise floor at -94 dB at 24bit, and that's supposed to be good for a 24 bit card?

The other thing is Creatives drivers. Creative have never produced a good, working driver for all uses. Yeah, they work for games, but for more serious recording? Forget about it...

If you own a Motu and a Mia, what do you use 2 Audigys for? Do you have both Audigys in your computer at the same time? How did you do that? That would be a nice trick to learn. :)

Acutally, the Audigy 2 has standard MIDI-connectors...
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OK,It seems again you guys got me all mixed up......i record w/this and as far as the bull about the drivers and again what you read??HELLO,I use this for recording only and ahh drivers are fine,only xp(figures) need to be upgraded from the site,and no they are not both in the same machine...BTW I use the Audigy's for touch up work @ home,so that when i do record 24-bit on MIA,MOTU,I can continue on w/24-bit so i don't have to convert till i am ready..And last of all as far as the noise floor,no prob. w/that also...You know what they say,sounds good?,go with it!
 
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brzilian said:


Whoa, a little on the defensive side, aren't we?

You're missing the whole point of Arcatek's original post. He does not have a $1000 MOTU interface to record with so if he is only using Reason with the Audigy 2, he will have no way of working with 24bit audio.

Most DAW software does not support 192kHz so what's the benefit of having that?

Finally, Arcatek does need MIDI if you read his initial post. BTW, those front panel MIDI ports on the Audigy are a total waste anyways. You still have to buy a MIDI adapter cable because the ports are mini-DIN ports and not your standard MIDI connectors.

Please don't quote one person's post as some kind of proof that M-Audio products are crap. I have been using their products for over a year with no problems and tons of other people on this forum can say the same.
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Well i wasn't gonna waste anymore of my energy,how long has M-audio been in business??And ahh who was one of the first soundcard manufacturers?Hmmmm i wonder...And yes i'll give you that as far as one persons quote but you know what was funny?That was the first review i pulled on the M-audio(like i care)and with the $ we all eventually end up spending on this stuff in the longrun(Whats a couple of midi connectors?)I tell you i'd rather get connectors that have to mess around w/the back of my machine,and honestly who wouldn't?And i wonder how much of what you know(Most DAW software does not support 192kHz so what's the benefit of having that?),you r kidding right??Umm the last time i checked it wasn't the software that gives you your playback quality(der) that would be the digital,analog converters in the card itself(DACS) for short and lastly for you if i seem a lil offensive maybe it's cause i am offended,seems to me every post i have put in here since i started you've replied to almost evryone of my posts in a not so good way,someone is asking for help,i would reply and you TRY to put down whatever i say...Thats not even the bad part most of the time i think(YOUR WRONG) and so would anyone else in here that knows their shit!! So my fellow recordists this will be my last post,cuz i am goin to join PROFESSIONAL RECORDING.COM,BTW i had a brazillian girlfriend once lol, HAVE A GOOD 1!!!!!
 
that was probably the funniest thing i've ever read.

i'm sure this hasn't been said yet only out of politeness, but i'm going to be completely blunt: your points are so completely assuming, defensive, and last but not least, incorrect, that i'm not even going to bother listing a whole lot of points that will prove nearly everything you say wrong. why? because you will then just say something like, "yeah well creative invented the internet so obviously you're wrong"
oh wait, you're not even coming back here to say that, are you? i forgot, you're a pro now, obviously, because you'll be on PROFESSIONAL RECORDING.COM. (interestingly, this site doesn't even exist. there is a professionalrecording.com, but it sure doesn't have forums :) if you want to, um, go "pro", try prorec.com, i'm sure they will be a whole lot nicer to you over there than people here have been ;) )


anyway, this thread has been the source of much entertainment to me. thank you to everyone involved for making my night this interesting, especially everyone who got upset over silicon.
 
I'm pretty sure that PROFESSIONAL RECORDING.COM requires the use of paragraphs. Good luck to you and your 192khz DACs.

Sheesh...

Slackmaster 2000
 
Love it or Hate it!

Creative soundcard is a subject that alway come up in every forums that I visited. My conclusion is that you either love it or hate it! Ha Ha Ha!!!
 
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