athlon 64/4000 and intel benchmarks....an interesting link

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for those interested i came across this today...http://techreport. com/reviews/2004q4/athlon64-fx55/index.x?pg=1
, an interesting set of benchmarks. notice the memory latency figures on the 64. showing why the 64 is good for audio applications.read the full review at your leisure.
i found it highly interesting. peace.
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gOOD link.

That video encoding always makes me :mad: when I look
at Pentium4 :(

It makes honest AMD64 owners :(

Dear lord even with FX :(
 
what interests me anthony is finally..with the amd 64 appearing in notebooks...powerfull transportable daw is becoming a reality.
i had to laugh...the other day someone with a lowly powerbook was trying to argue with me on the merits of it. i cant believe some people wont keep open minds. in summary the amd 64 is a blessing for daw users .
peace.
 
manning1 said:
what interests me anthony is finally..with the amd 64 appearing in notebooks...powerfull transportable daw is becoming a reality.
i had to laugh...the other day someone with a lowly powerbook was trying to argue with me on the merits of it. i cant believe some people wont keep open minds. in summary the amd 64 is a blessing for daw users .
peace.
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Indeed.

But the fact that Mobile version is barely 30W is to praise alone :)

All that brute power with such profound and
economical virtue ;)
 
It's clear cut from that review that for gamers, it's all AMD no contest.

However for a DAW application, there's a lot less between them. At the 3.4GHz level the P4 is probably a better bet in terms of price/performance
 
Bulls Hit said:
It's clear cut from that review that for gamers, it's all AMD no contest. However for a DAW application, there's a lot less between them. At the 3.4GHz level the P4 is probably a better bet in terms of price/performance
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If you consider that AMD64 is almost dead cool compared to competitive P4. Fact that speaks enough about architecture limits of present P4.

Same thing was with early AMD XP series, they end up in inferno temperatures just to compete with Intel. Same things is happening now, P4 is pushing the competitive limit at the cost of overheating, while AMD64 is smooth sailor with completely new design that is not even presenting a hint of its virtue until we have decent 64 applications to grasp this power.

Too many applications is optimized for Intel and very soon AMD64 will show how much even more can deliver with new generation of 64Bit applications.

Compared to Intel this is modern design, stabile with fantastic thermal characteristics.

What is the point of the top P4 models when they are burning their life span just to be competitive with AMD64?

That is a clear proof that they reached maximum with this design.
 
Anthony said:
Compared to Intel this is modern design, stabile with fantastic thermal characteristics.

What is the point of the top P4 models when they are burning their life span just to be competitive with AMD64?

That is a clear proof that they reached maximum with this design.
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That's quite true. However given that I upgrade my computer every 3 years, the fact that a P4 only has say a 6-year instead of a 12-year lifespan doesn't bother me.

More pertinent in a daw situation is the fan noise associated with the greater cooling requirement
 
eraos said:
would an AMD 64 2800+ with 512 L2 cache be much better than my XP3000+ cpu with 400mhz FSB? I have the opportunity to get that chip since it's so cheap... but i'm wondering if it's worth it.
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Well, in short yes.

But since 754 socket is near its end,...and939 is shaping its place, I think considering new MBO, and associated expenses with your moving to new CPU, AMD64 3000 or best 3200 would be the best choice. MD64 3200 with 1MB cache is good investment considering its power and more then reasonable price.

That would buy you an excellent CPU and great power for future to come.
 
anthony/bh. you know what could really give intel problems though is ..
and ive not seen anyone considerr this.
put a couple of the those cheap semprons on a mainboard.
anybody making dual sempron motherboards ?
not everyone needs the 64 bandwidth.
what interests me now in a technical sense is what amd and intel
do technology wise over the next 3 years. ie...will they milk the
"plateau" or zoom out with higher level stuff.
 
manning1 said:
anthony/bh. you know what could really give intel problems though is ..and ive not seen anyone considerr this.put a couple of the those cheap semprons on a mainboard.anybody making dual sempron motherboards ? not everyone needs the 64 bandwidth.
what interests me now in a technical sense is what amd and intel do technology wise over the next 3 years. ie...will they milk the "plateau" or zoom out with higher level stuff.
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Well,

That is an interesting question.

First answer to your question is yes, not dedicated for Sempron MBO as yet, and I doubt if there is ever to be one considering its strategic position in consumer desktop domain.

It is possible to put two Semprons on Athlon MP board, read these to links to get some idea. Link1 : http://s05.imagehost.org/0093/000.gif

Link2 : http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=17287

What many people fail to understand is that FX barely on its own is stronger then top models in Opteron 200 series. This was proven in many tests and this is just one of them :

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More on Opteron : http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_8826,00.html

My friend purchased a fantastic dual MSI MBO that supports one FX or two Opteron 200s.

Unbelievable performance , it makes a mockery of my late G5 and my present AMD64 Athlon into the shade.

He wanted to change his system with my present because he didn?t need all this power and only thing that forced me away from this change was its registered memory.

He took his (2x1GB) memory and it was somewhat much to expensive to consider investing in this memory when you know that present AMD64 4000 power is almost the same as FX, almost.

What seems as a rumor and some are commenting is the fact how will AMD behave in next 5 years considering that he is in a constant climb with sale not to mention taking considerable peace of cake from Intel? Will AMD start behave like Intel or not in future to come, placing higher and higher tag on CPUs to come? In either way it is good to have competition from Intel. One way or another.
 
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interesting links anthony.
frankly the opterons while nice are very expensive.
there are all sorts of people trying to argue STILL on the merits of the g5.
but i'm not one of them. i'm staying amd.
computer engr friends of mine laughed at me 4 years ago when i said amd were going to become a force.
needless to say , ive had a few apologies since from the same people.
be curious what sorts of track counts your hearing and plug ins with opterons. i'm hearing crazy numbers like 180 tracks.
it would be kind of neat if someone found a way to gang a few semprons together cos they are so cheap. i'm into crazy stuff like this.
 
manning1 said:
interesting links anthony. frankly the opterons while nice are very expensive. there are all sorts of people trying to argue STILL on the merits of the g5.
but i'm not one of them. i'm staying amd. computer engr friends of mine laughed at me 4 years ago when i said amd were going to become a force. needless to say , ive had a few apologies since from the same people. be curious what sorts of track counts your hearing and plug ins with opterons. i'm hearing crazy numbers like 180 tracks.
it would be kind of neat if someone found a way to gang a few semprons together cos they are so cheap. i'm into crazy stuff like this.
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180 tracks is not the joke with Opteron, but he was into science stuff.

As for Sempron, I'm not sure is it Tyan brand but I know
I have seen quad AMD MP MBO somwhere.

So it would be possible to have 4 of them together ;)

Very promising system I must say.

But if you are into MP, you could get a great performance
with dual XP3200 and fantastic dual Tyan Motherboards.

Very economical and it would certainly be on par with top
AMD64, even more.
 
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