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BEK$
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Wondering if I can get any view from any of you who have an AT 4060, likes? dislikes ? Your signal chain ? Do you have any Neumanns etc ? Comparative wise...
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joswil44
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I was going to buy a new Large Diaphram Condensor Mic for Vocals and was looking at the Nuemann U87 and the Lawson L47 if I have my models correct.
A rep at Proaudiodesign.com recommended the AT4060 because the specs on it were as good and in fact better than both of the more expensive mics.
I love my AT4060 and I price Matched it for about $900 at Guitar Center.
A U87 is over $2K
Here's all the individual Specs.
Hope this helps.
Nuemann U87
Acoustical operating principle Pressure gradient transducer
Directional pattern Omnidirectional, cardioid, figure-8 plus
Frequency range 20 Hz ... 20 kHz
Sensitivity at 1 kHz into 1 kohm 20/28/22 mV/Pa*
Rated impedance 200 ohms
Rated load impedance 1000 ohms
Equivalent SPL CCIR 468-3 26/23/25 dB*
Equivalent SPL DIN/IEC 651 15/12/14 dB-A*
S/N ratio CCIR 468-3 68/71/69 dB*
S/N ratio DIN/IEC 651 79/82/80 dB*
Maximum SPL for THD 0.5% 117 dB (cardioid)
Maximum SPL for THD 0.5% with preattenuation 127 dB
Maximum output voltage 390 mV
Dynamic range of the microphone amplifier cardioid DIN/IEC 651 105 dB
Supply voltage 48 V ± 4 V
Lawson L47
Frequency Range 20 to 20 kHz
Polar Patterns Cardioid, omni-directional, figure 8, and infinite intermediate patterns; also cardioid-only position
Sensitivity at 1 kHz 11.4 mV @ 1 Pascal (94 dB SPL)
18.2 mV (cardioid only position)
Max SPL (1 kHz 3%) 128 dB
(138 dB SPL with -10 dB pad)
Equivalent Noise Level 22 dBA multi-pattern
19 dBA cardioid-only mode
Rated Impedance 150 ohms
Tube 6N1P dual triode
Connector 7-pin gold-plated XLR
Pad -10 dB
Dimensions Mic: 9.75"L, 2.375"D
Supply: 8"L X 4.375"W X 2.625"H
Shipping Weight 14 lbs.
Power Supply 100/120/200/220/240 VAC factory set
Audio Technica 4060
POLAR PATTERN Cardioid
FREQUENCY RESPONSE 20-20,000 Hz
OPEN CIRCUIT SENSITIVITY -34 dB (19.9 mV) re 1V at 1 Pa
IMPEDANCE 200 ohms
MAXIMUM INPUT SOUND LEVEL 150 dB SPL, 1 kHz at 1% T.H.D.;
149 dB SPL, 1 kHz at 0.5% T.H.D.
NOISE 19 dB SPL
DYNAMIC RANGE (typical) 131 dB, 1 kHz at Max SPL
SIGNAL-TO-NOISE RATIO 75 dB, 1 kHz at 1 Pa
POWER REQUIREMENTS AT8560 power supply (120V/230V AC)
WEIGHT (MICROPHONE) 22.6 oz (640 g)
WEIGHT (POWER SUPPLY) 4.19 lbs (1.9 kg)
DIMENSIONS MICROPHONE: 8.27" (210.0 mm) long,
2.10" (53.4 mm) maximum body diameter
POWER SUPPLY: 8.27" (210.0 mm) W x
8.86" (225.0 mm) D x 1.73" (44.0 mm) H
OUTPUT CONNECTOR XLRM-type (on power supply)
CABLES 32.8' (10 m) cable with 6 pin XLR-type connectors for use between microphone and power supply; AC power supply cable
ACCESSORIES FURNISHED AT8560 power supply; AT8447 shock mount for 5/8"-27 threaded stands; rack-mount adapters for power supply; protective mic carrying case
A rep at Proaudiodesign.com recommended the AT4060 because the specs on it were as good and in fact better than both of the more expensive mics.
I love my AT4060 and I price Matched it for about $900 at Guitar Center.
A U87 is over $2K
Here's all the individual Specs.
Hope this helps.
Nuemann U87
Acoustical operating principle Pressure gradient transducer
Directional pattern Omnidirectional, cardioid, figure-8 plus
Frequency range 20 Hz ... 20 kHz
Sensitivity at 1 kHz into 1 kohm 20/28/22 mV/Pa*
Rated impedance 200 ohms
Rated load impedance 1000 ohms
Equivalent SPL CCIR 468-3 26/23/25 dB*
Equivalent SPL DIN/IEC 651 15/12/14 dB-A*
S/N ratio CCIR 468-3 68/71/69 dB*
S/N ratio DIN/IEC 651 79/82/80 dB*
Maximum SPL for THD 0.5% 117 dB (cardioid)
Maximum SPL for THD 0.5% with preattenuation 127 dB
Maximum output voltage 390 mV
Dynamic range of the microphone amplifier cardioid DIN/IEC 651 105 dB
Supply voltage 48 V ± 4 V
Lawson L47
Frequency Range 20 to 20 kHz
Polar Patterns Cardioid, omni-directional, figure 8, and infinite intermediate patterns; also cardioid-only position
Sensitivity at 1 kHz 11.4 mV @ 1 Pascal (94 dB SPL)
18.2 mV (cardioid only position)
Max SPL (1 kHz 3%) 128 dB
(138 dB SPL with -10 dB pad)
Equivalent Noise Level 22 dBA multi-pattern
19 dBA cardioid-only mode
Rated Impedance 150 ohms
Tube 6N1P dual triode
Connector 7-pin gold-plated XLR
Pad -10 dB
Dimensions Mic: 9.75"L, 2.375"D
Supply: 8"L X 4.375"W X 2.625"H
Shipping Weight 14 lbs.
Power Supply 100/120/200/220/240 VAC factory set
Audio Technica 4060
POLAR PATTERN Cardioid
FREQUENCY RESPONSE 20-20,000 Hz
OPEN CIRCUIT SENSITIVITY -34 dB (19.9 mV) re 1V at 1 Pa
IMPEDANCE 200 ohms
MAXIMUM INPUT SOUND LEVEL 150 dB SPL, 1 kHz at 1% T.H.D.;
149 dB SPL, 1 kHz at 0.5% T.H.D.
NOISE 19 dB SPL
DYNAMIC RANGE (typical) 131 dB, 1 kHz at Max SPL
SIGNAL-TO-NOISE RATIO 75 dB, 1 kHz at 1 Pa
POWER REQUIREMENTS AT8560 power supply (120V/230V AC)
WEIGHT (MICROPHONE) 22.6 oz (640 g)
WEIGHT (POWER SUPPLY) 4.19 lbs (1.9 kg)
DIMENSIONS MICROPHONE: 8.27" (210.0 mm) long,
2.10" (53.4 mm) maximum body diameter
POWER SUPPLY: 8.27" (210.0 mm) W x
8.86" (225.0 mm) D x 1.73" (44.0 mm) H
OUTPUT CONNECTOR XLRM-type (on power supply)
CABLES 32.8' (10 m) cable with 6 pin XLR-type connectors for use between microphone and power supply; AC power supply cable
ACCESSORIES FURNISHED AT8560 power supply; AT8447 shock mount for 5/8"-27 threaded stands; rack-mount adapters for power supply; protective mic carrying case
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joswil44
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I was pretty much coming from a most for your money point of view.
If you have all the money at your disposal and you are going for some legendary sound then I guess you just buy that special mic.
I run the 4060 through a Grace Design Model 101 Mic Preamp.
It ran equally well straight into my Mackie 32.8 Analog Mixer.
Only thing I ever needed for it was a Pop Filter.
If you have all the money at your disposal and you are going for some legendary sound then I guess you just buy that special mic.
I run the 4060 through a Grace Design Model 101 Mic Preamp.
It ran equally well straight into my Mackie 32.8 Analog Mixer.
Only thing I ever needed for it was a Pop Filter.
B
BEK$
New member
Yea I saw the specs as well for the AT4060, you ever run anything else though your preamp? Sound differences ?
B
BEK$
New member
ACtually trying to see the 4060 against a TLM 103
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joswil44
New member
I pretty much made sure I bought a great Vocal Mic, Overhead Mics, Drum Mics, and suitable Guitar Mics. Im not at a point yet where I can start buying other mics to have a variety of flavors.
So unfortunately I can't compare the AT4060 to any other mics in its class.
Good Luck.
So unfortunately I can't compare the AT4060 to any other mics in its class.
Good Luck.
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BEK$
New member
got ya, but do you ever stick it for recording guitar, acoustic, electric, or just use it as a vocal mic ? What mics do you have, im curious
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joswil44
New member
I have used it as an ambient Mic for recording a guitar cab in my vocal booth.
Worked nicely for that. I have also recorded accoustic guitar. It picks up very well like an overhead would.
I haven't tryed it direct on a guitar cab yet.
I use the following mics:
AT4060 Vocals
Audix DP5 Drum Mic Kit
2 Audix D2's for Rack Toms
1 Audix D4 for Floor Toms
1 Audix D6 For Kick Drums or Large Floor Toms
1 Audix I5 for Snare (Also works great for guitar cabs, very punchy)
2 Nuemann KM184 (Matched Stereo Pair for Overheads) Phantom Powered
AKG D112 Kick Drum/Bass Guitar Cab Mic
1 Shure SM57 (Use for Guitar cabs or on Snare Top or Bottom)
1 Shure Beta57(Use for Guitar cabs or on Snare Top or Bottom)
3 Shure SM58 (Used to use these between Toms before I got the Audix mics)
1 Shure Beta58 (Sometimes used for Hand Held Vocals)
I run all mics into a 100' American Cable Company 24 Channel Snake to the Mackie 32.8 mixer, then Direct Out's to Nuendo/RME 96K 8 I/O Converter.
The AT4060 cable plugs into its rackmounted power supply, then into my Grace Model 101 Preamp, and finally to Nuendo/RME 96K 8 I/O Converter.
Worked nicely for that. I have also recorded accoustic guitar. It picks up very well like an overhead would.
I haven't tryed it direct on a guitar cab yet.
I use the following mics:
AT4060 Vocals
Audix DP5 Drum Mic Kit
2 Audix D2's for Rack Toms
1 Audix D4 for Floor Toms
1 Audix D6 For Kick Drums or Large Floor Toms
1 Audix I5 for Snare (Also works great for guitar cabs, very punchy)
2 Nuemann KM184 (Matched Stereo Pair for Overheads) Phantom Powered
AKG D112 Kick Drum/Bass Guitar Cab Mic
1 Shure SM57 (Use for Guitar cabs or on Snare Top or Bottom)
1 Shure Beta57(Use for Guitar cabs or on Snare Top or Bottom)
3 Shure SM58 (Used to use these between Toms before I got the Audix mics)
1 Shure Beta58 (Sometimes used for Hand Held Vocals)
I run all mics into a 100' American Cable Company 24 Channel Snake to the Mackie 32.8 mixer, then Direct Out's to Nuendo/RME 96K 8 I/O Converter.
The AT4060 cable plugs into its rackmounted power supply, then into my Grace Model 101 Preamp, and finally to Nuendo/RME 96K 8 I/O Converter.
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tdukex
Man of the Muse
I would never judge a microphone by its spec sheet. Otherwise I might be led to think the Rode NT1-A is on par with the mics above and that the Coles 4038 was a stinker. 
Comparing multi-pattern mics to a single pattern mic is like comparing a pickup truck to a sedan. There are reasons to choose a cardioid only and reasons to choose a multi-pattern, and there are reasons why multi-pattern mics cost more.
Comparing multi-pattern mics to a single pattern mic is like comparing a pickup truck to a sedan. There are reasons to choose a cardioid only and reasons to choose a multi-pattern, and there are reasons why multi-pattern mics cost more.
B
BEK$
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yes I know, thats why I started this thread
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mbrebes
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I have two AT4060's and they sound great, some of the best sounding mics I have. I had a Neumann M147 that I sold so that I could get another 4060. Other LDC mics I have are U87 and AKG414. But do replace the stock Sovtek 6922 tube with a JJ 6922. It sounds better than the NOS JAN versions available and almost as good as the Sylvania Gold Brand that is in my other mic. It opens the mic right up.
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joswil44
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mbrebes said:
What do you use 2 for? Backup? Overheads?
Just curious.......