Arbiter flats.. anyone seen 'em??

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http://www.flatslite.com/ wow..... this is in all honesty amazing to me. if you go to flats pro and listen to 'em on the site they sound really nice recorded. i wonder how much they'd cost here in the US or if they're even available (they're based in the UK)
 
Wow. Even the lites sounded nice! I, too, am wondering how much!
 
I actually owned a set that was left at a rehearsal space. They sounded OK (not great - just OK). I don't recall what I paid (I worked in a drum shop so I got them at cost) - but they were not that much less expensive than an extry level kit.

I did not use the snare (I used a "real snare") and by the time you add hi-hat stands and cymbal stands the floor space and weight (ie: hauling gear) is not significantly different then say a small 4 pice kit

I considered them nothing more than a practise kit (like drum pads that actually had some tone). I would not choose to record with them or even gig with them - but in a pinch they would be better then nothing.

It's a clever idea and for someone that has money to throw at various toys (to me - all gear are "toys") it can be a tool - but a real instrument, not so much.
 
If you're looking for a cool sound and portability, you should check out the GigPig too. Not crazy 'bout the snare sounds but the rest is cool:

http://www.gigpig.org/
 
wow those gigpigs sound really cool..... i kinda like that snare actually.... those toms sound really nice 'n' deep..... im really amazed at some of the space-saving gear out there.....
 
My sister's fiance uses the kick on his small, portable kit. Records some hiphop/electronic/noise stuff with it and it sounds fantastic for that purpose.
 
I've seen the Arbiters-style before but they weren't by Arbiter then. There used be similarly functioning kits in the late80's/early 90's made by a company called Purecussion, Inc. That was called the RIMS Headset.

The RIMS Headset was made by the same company that, in a nutshell, sold DW on the first generation isolation mounting systems which revolutionized how the drumming community approached how they mounted their drums. This eventually trickled down from high end custom kits then all the way down to alot of entry level sets sold today.


I think the same guy (Gary Gauger) was involved with the Purecussion company that initially sold these HeadSets. He claims to be the inventor and that could very well be true. He is now running the current GPI company who holds the patent on RIMS and is the primary manufacturer and distributor of the replacement parts for the out-of-production HeadSet kits.

Since I imagine that most manufacturers found a way to circumvent the patent licensing, Purecussion seemed to fade away into the night. Their flagship product, RIMS drum mounts, are still offered today from GPI although the summary given in their "About" section doesn't make any direct reference or mention about Purecussion except they sell certain "OEM" HeadSet replacement parts. Probably something he wants to put behind him, I'd imagine. The inventor of these style of kits and hardware is still alive and kicking online here:

http://www.gaugerpercussion.com


I remember when the RIMS first came out. I was one of the earliest adopters to refit my Ludwig Classics with them and it made a marked difference with their sustain. At the time, they were an after-market niche add-on. Little did anyone know then how much that little invention would basically revolutionize the drum hardware industry to re-think and implement their similarly functioning tom mounting systems.

Anyway, just a little backstory..
 
Sweet. I really like the GigPig snare, actually. Where does one buy the Flats? I don't see anything on the site about that.
 
I used a set of flats once at a jam gig in Edinburgh & hated them. Felt like they would fall to pieces at any point & the cymbals...............yuck

there's better portable kits out there for the cash

IMHO
slidey
 
Mike Giles...

recorded the 21st Century Schizoid Band's first CD on a Flats kit. Listen to Official Bootleg, V. 1 for a good representation of their recorded sound.
 
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