Anybody wanna give a quick listen?

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There are many issues with this, but I'd like to hear what stands out the worst. (performance and mixing)

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Thanks! :D
 
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I don't know that I can be very helpful. All the sounds are captured very well, which I totally expected.

The acoustic guitar that's playing lead lines is pretty dominating during the first verse of the song, then it pretty much drops off the face of the earth.

The vocal probably needs some enveloping in terms of volume, and while I'm no expert, it seems kinda' pitchy. That's my biggest beef, to be honest...the vocal.
 
I really like the way that the lead guitar sounds, but I'm not really feelin the rhythm guitar. The drums sound good, maybe a bit more level on the ride? It seems kinda quiet at some points.

To vocals seem to be kind of hiding behind everything and riding low in the mix. Maybe try upping them, compress a bit, maybe just EQ a tad bit, too.

Good song though, I like it a lot. I always dig only acoustics with drums.
 
Hi NL5,
Very nicely understated song this with really good vocals. Generally I'd say it's a good mix of the instruments, except that the lead acoustic is taking over a bit too much. You've done well to capture the feel of the whole thing.

:cool: I like it!
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Thanks to everybody that responded.

Anybody have anything to comment on the performance? Good or bad comments welcome.

Thanks!
 
I thought the vocals sounded good throughout the verse, but a little weird during the chorus part. I thought the mix was a little bass heavy, but I'm listening on headphones so I could be wrong.
 
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Thanks Pat.

Here is a bit of an update -


Looking for mix and performance critiques. :D

Thanks again to everybody that has responded.
 
Any comments on the new version? Mix and performance comments welcomed.
 
Hey NL,

I've heard you do mich better mixes. The drums aren't present enough, I find. And the timing isn't perfect, though not terrible. I don't hear the hats too mcuh, and I find the snare could use a nice crack for this type of tune. Kik also, is there, but not hitting me in the chest.

On a personal level, I didn't like the first time the drums went from half time to doubling up. Once it happpened a second time, and all the times after that, it made sense. Just threw me off the first time.
 
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Hey NL,

I've heard you do mich better mixes. The drums aren't present enough, I find. And the timing isn't perfect, though not terrible. I don't hear the hats too mcuh, and I find the snare could use a nice crack for this type of tune. Kik also, is there, but not hitting me in the chest.

On a personal level, I didn't like the first time the drums went from half time to doubling up. Once it happpened a second time, and all the times after that, it made sense. Just threw me off the first time.
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Thanks Rami!

Anybody else want to critique the performance? The mix is not done yet, and am really more looking for performance critiques. Don't hold back, I know there are issues.
 
There are some timing issues between the drums and guitars. I like the vocal, except the "not myself" parts. They sound kind of forced, like you're striving too hard for the "modern hard rock" sound. It ends kind of abruptly, but I think that's what you were going for. I'm not so sure it works for this song though. I really like it otherwise, though, nice little tune. ;)
 
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I've listened to this one three or four times.

Man, that is some really nice guitar playing.

Slight timing issues as has been noted above...



The following is all IMHO, YMMV, etc. etc.

I don't think this song needs to be loud or rocking to be heavy.


Some work on the vocal delivery and you could really do this with just guitars and vox.. The lyrics are excellent, and putting the vocal front and center is a good idea.

The vocal does seem forced.. They lyric is a very introspective sort of dark tune, and not the sort of thing one might shout.

If I were to record this I would strip it way down and let the time have some elasticity.

Guitar, cello, piano. Maybe some malleted cymbals. Quieter vocal delivery.






I think it has the potential to be a great song.
 
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Supercreep said:
I've listened to this one three or four times.

Man, that is some really nice guitar playing.

Slight timing issues as has been noted above...



The following is all IMHO, YMMV, etc. etc.

I don't think this song needs to be loud or rocking to be heavy.


Some work on the vocal delivery and you could really do this with just guitars and vox.. The lyrics are excellent, and putting the vocal front and center is a good idea.

The vocal does seem forced.. They lyric is a very introspective sort of dark tune, and not the sort of thing one might shout.

If I were to record this I would strip it way down and let the time have some elasticity.

Guitar, cello, piano. Maybe some malleted cymbals. Quieter vocal delivery.






I think it has the potential to be a great song.
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Thanks! I appreciate the review.

It looks like we are going to try getting together and playing thru the 5 songs that he recoded so maybe we will sound more like a band and not 5 guys "almost" in time... LOL. :D

I'm a pretty crappy musician, so the fact that nobody said anything bad about my part makes me smile! (other than the slight timing issues anyway) :D
 
its acctually pretty good!!

i would say that the bass needs tightening ...need to introduce more silence ...get rid of non productive undefined bassy washes....needs to tighten up its act.

everything needs more edge ..treble definition.

would also be good to introduce more dynamic to introduce more song structure.

but i do love counting crows ...so how could i not like this.

im sorry but i cant seperate performance and mix and the song itself ...its all one.

personally if i was the engineer my main concern would be on instrument seperation...less homoginous.

but u say mix is not there so i will wait for that.
 
Drums sound good, the guitar sound a little twangy in spots(played a little too hard). Putting the rrrr in the "Not my self(serrrrrlf)" sounds out of place. Have the singer open up there. The bass is boomy and too boomy in a couple spots making the guitar and vocals unclear. Clean up the bass some and you have yourself a good tune there.

My wife liked it so much she stopped playing EQ2 to listen :).
 
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Any comments on the new version? Mix and performance comments welcomed.
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I am about to listen and then post. I won't be reading anything below this post, so I hope I won't be beating a dead horse....

My first impression is a lot of mid range collisions in the intro.

Nicely played, but you have a few transient mid range spikes.


Snare needs a little more snap. The hi hat is buried. The kick needs a little thump.

Performance-wise, it's not bad. Nice tune.
 
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Yeah, some bass spaces would be good &, as per usual with my taste, a little more definition in it too.
I don't like the cymbals - they sound like aluminium foil or something.
Good song, some very good playing that could be tightened up to be excellent.
maybe a bit of vol balance between the acoustics?
Nice work thus far!
 
Yeah, a bit more highs to guitars, snare, and definition to the kick. A lot more definition and tightness to the bass, it rumbles and fills the downstairs completely. Then I'd take down the vox, he sings too loud and its mixed too on top also.
 
I agree with alot that was said


some timing issues


vox seem forced

I think the drums need more power

I think the whole track need some tightening and compressing. It sounds ok, but reminds me of what I would hear over a house system listening to a live act drinking my coffee.
 
Thanks to everybody that replied. I was mostly looking for performance critiques this time around, as I knew there were timing issues, but I wanted to see how bad they stood out without me pointing them out. The mix was just to see if we could fix the timing issues before we really started mixing.

The new link somehow had the AC guitars with a pretty good boost at 110, and that was causing what sounded like the boominess in the bass. I think frrekkin Cubase changed it when I reopened the project, since the only changes I made were to the drums with timing edits.

It sounds like we are gonna start fresh, maybe.........
 
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