Any black guys here?

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I was wondering if any of you could tell me your secret for your awesome voice.

I am from Australia and I got a Aussie accent and its freakin hard to do RnB songs, but I'm trying to get all the word pronounciations correct..

I am trying to do Chris Brown, Ne-yo, Trey Songz, J Holiday etc.. Its my favorite music at the moment.. Any good tips??:)
 
Sure, I got a tip. Get yourself born black in your next lifetime. A black voice is pretty much a genetic thing, right? You got it or you ain't - simple. But on the other hand, people like Dr John do a *very* good line in excellent music that nudges a white voice a little closer to a black voice, so you could do similar, I spose. But have you ever heard 'Streets'? It's hip hop done by a white British guy with a working class accent. I really like it, and it's obvious that he likes it, and it's obvious that he felt no need to sound black in order to do his excellent hip hop material. Whatcha think?
 
wtf?

no im not black btw but why do you wanna sound sumthin u aint?, im white english so i sound white english. im guessin your white aussie so just do you. why u wanna immitate someone? thats wack mate

streets is fukkin horrible btw, chav scum
 
LOL that sounded like some Adult Friend Finder shit....

Just do you, do ya own thing, imitators get playa hated. There's a HUGE difference between being influenced by someone and straight ripping their style. Know the difference.

Also, if you falsify yourself, you're likely to get called out on some shit. Usually not worth the hassle of it.
 
wtf?

no im not black btw but why do you wanna sound sumthin u aint?, im white english so i sound white english. im guessin your white aussie so just do you. why u wanna immitate someone? thats wack mate

streets is fukkin horrible btw, chav scum


I sense some tension...
 
I just wondering what techniques used on the voice? :) I am new singer

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=0yeWGfU-H9A&feature=channel_page

He asian but still sound goood. How to do those high notes that sound like girl?

Yeah, he's great, I really like it. Makes me think that him or his dad listened to Stevie Wonder a lot.

But you say you're a new singer, right? So here's what you should do. Sing, and sing, and sing, and sing, and sing some more. Just sing a lot, and sing material you really like. And you know what? Your singing style will start to develop. Simple. You're not going to learn how to sing by talking about it here. Just do it. Nike was right.

But I do have this bit of advice as you get started on all that singing you want to do: concentrate on three things - intonation, rhythm, and emotion. The rest will take care of itself. I promise.
 
That kind of talent doesn't come to everyone. I agree that he has some Stevie WOnder influence, but I'd also have to throw in some Michael J. influence too...some of those notes he hit seemed like Mike's work.

As far as your recording goes. I would say tighten up your sound just a little bit...not a whole lot...I'd say its about 90% there. This isn't something you just said "Oh I'll sing something real quick and record it for my first time". You've done this a while and it shows. BTW the guitar is overpowering your voice. Raise your vocals up some. The mix is far better than a lot of what I've heard...the vocals are just a bit too low, but I understand it was just some evaluation type stuff to see where you were at


Fiev.
 
I see, thanks for the help guys.

When you say tighten up the voice.. What does it mean exactly?

I am quite a new singer but have been playing guitar for awhile. I only did like er.. Wonderwall by Oasis and stuff.. Lol.

Appreciate the help
 
Hey ind 1. You will of course never sound black nor will you be able to extend your vocal range beyond what it will naturally do, but you can learn how to put some emotion into your singing-- soul is what we used to call it. Emotion is what it is all about, and no one race has a monopoly on that. My old a** has no clue about modern R&B artists. But I didn't do all that bad learning by singing along with the records of R&B artists like Marvin Gaye, Otis Redding, David Ruffin. Even had a black person or two tell me I had a lot of soul -- for a white guy. You should pick a modern R&B artist who sings a style you like within your vocal range and study what they do. Pay attention ot only to enunciation and phrasing, but also to the scales that underlie the improvisation.
 
Mariah Carey is NOT I repeat NOT in your vocal range or anyone elses that I know personally LOL

Just had to throw that in there for laughs.
 
Thanks for the posts, they're very helpful. :)

I had a go at Neyo/NKOTB - Single just now..

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?nhmyj2wzku4

Ok, its weird.. I sound a bit white/asian in the first part (because I am half asian and white), but yeah.. It would be cool if you could point out which bits really stand out and need improvement! :o
 
ALL my favorite singers are black and as a musician I've often pondered just what does make the difference.

I think its more cultural factors than anything. When you consider the prominent role music has played in black culture throughout its history as well as the soulful direction it has taken. (Even black church is a musical celebration). Any kid growing up exposed to such an abundance of heartfelt soulful singing is bound to be naturally influenced by it.

Next, as strange as it may sound, I think black dialect is a huge factor. I'm not much of a singer and dont know all the proper techniques, but I did once hear from a singer in training that most peoples normal speaking voice is the exact OPPOSITE of what your body needs to be doing to sing good because speech constricts vocal cords and doesnt generally come from the diaphram. Based on that, theres something about black speaking dialect that just seems much more smooth, relaxed, and free flowing than other dialects. It would stand to reason that something about it might also be helpful (or at least less restrictive) to proper singing technique.

Then again, maybe white men just cant sing, dance or jump, and I should just stick to guitar playing. LOL!

But seriously, what do you properly TRAINED singers out there think about the dialect factor?
 
Mariah Carey is NOT I repeat NOT in your vocal range or anyone elses that I know personally LOL

Just had to throw that in there for laughs.

After seeing the blue diva in that old Bruce Willis Movie, I decided that Mariah is likely from another planet.
 
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