Analogue Console Recommendations

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I'm looking to buy an analogue console for recording and mixdown in my home studio. My budget (at the moment) is about a $1000 (not sure if that's even realistic). I would like to have at least 24 inputs for mixing. Any suggestions?

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i been looking at the Spirit M12. It has line-level input plus pre-amps that came off the Ghost board.

Goes for around $700-800 i believe.
 
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I'm looking to buy an analogue console for recording and mixdown in my home studio. My budget (at the moment) is about a $1000 (not sure if that's even realistic). I would like to have at least 24 inputs for mixing. Any suggestions?

Simmons
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24ch for a grand will be pushing it. You might find a used 24ch mackie or soundcraft. For that price the only thing you could get new is a behringer and I'd rather invest in crack then dump that much into a big expensive crappy mixer.

If you are going to buy new then something like Toadies suggested would be a good idea.
 
Yeah I'd keep my eye on ebay, for an older good mixer than a newer poor one.
 
stay away from the godamned soundtracs topaz that a lot of people recomend for lower end harry home recorders. I fixed one for a friend a few weeks back and the godamn thing has plastic jacks right in between the two rectifiers in the power supply. That's the hottest part of the board my friends. No heat shielding. the freakin' things crumbled in my hand. And get this, there is no fuse in the entire system that I could find. And the freakin' external "power supply" is not the power supply it is a mother-freakin' transformer. get this, the power supply is inside the console, and it uses the entrie conosole as a heat sink. AND it is freakin' AC! Who in the hell brings AC into a console with no freakin' sheilding!! Why in hell does harvey recomend this peice of junk? jesus, I'm going to keel over right now just thinking about it.
 
TexRoadkill, you're right.....I'm dreaming.

I'll need to broaden my scope a bit.

Does anyone have any hands-on experience with a Behringer MX9000 Eurodesk. This mixer is manufactured under ISO9000 certified management system. That's an international quality standard that must be awarded to a product from an outside organization.

I've read reviews from people that actually liked the board BETTER than the Mackie or Allen & Heath counterparts. It's hard to ignore comments like that.

http://www.samedaymusic.com/productreview--BEHMX9000

Maybe Behringer DID make several shitty mixers in the past, but that doesn't mean that they can't produce a winner. Does it?

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Just my opinion but they make nothing but shitty mixers. Their compressors aren't too bad but the mixers are reverse engineered ripped off designs from other companies and then they dumb it down a little more and whore them out from factories in China. I'd keep my eyes open for a used board of some kind.
 
From what I've read, they don't really try to hard to hide the fact that they rip off other company's systems. It seems to be common knowledge. I'm really only interested in the sound quality. The price (~$1200-$1300) versus the reviews I've read is pretty impressive.

Track Rat,
Have you actually heard or used this particular mixer? I'd love to hear a first hand account from someone who's actually used the Behringer MX9000 Eurodesk in a mixing/recording session.

Simmons
 
I'm currently living in Europe, so shipping would kill me. I'd rather drive to England and get one :)
 
Here's one for around that price, at least in the US. Yamaha MG32/14FX 32. Musician's friend says under $1100US. Have no idea what it would cost in Europe with that VAT, ect. You might have to get a Behringer Euro desk 3282. Sounds like even that thing would be getting close $1000US over there.
I'd rather wait till I could afford something nice over buying a Behringer. Even if they finally make a decent mixer, I just don't think I could bring myself to own one. Currently waiting to afford a Spirit M12 myself. Probably not enough inputs for your application, but the M series looks really nice.
 
I've worked with an MX9000 (or 8000, don't remember, they're the same) a few years ago. About half of the PAN controls did not have a centre detent (or what's the word... you know, a little 'stop' at 12 o'clock).

The board has many great functions and possibilities but sounds kind of thin and has a little too many QC problems (as with all Behrie products).

Go used, but test it yourself.

Have you tried www.funky-junk.com yet ?? They have many consoles in all price ranges and are France/UK and a third country-based.

Herwig
 
DeadPoet,
I'm always on the look out for sources like this. Post more if you have them.

DaffyDrunk,
The Yamaha MG32/14FX 32 look REALLY interesting. Thanks for the tip. I don't think the mixer has been released yet though....I'd like to read a hands-on review. Also, I've heard sketchy things about the Yamaha effects, but the mixer sounds great...especially for the price. The onboard effects (if they dont' suck) would be a nice option to have.
 
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Can you get good deals on Soundcrafts over there? That will probably be your best bet.

The thing with mixers is that there is a LOT of circuitry that can color or screw up your sound. Especially on a big 24ch 8 bus board. Using a small Behringer for a starter home studio is one thing but buying a big flagship type console it another. I wouldn't spend more than $100 on any Behringer product because you simply will not get your money back out of it. With a Mackie or Soundcraft you can at least get 50-70% of your money back if you want to sell it later on.

If you can save a bit more look for a used Soundcraft Ghost. You can get a 24CH LE model for less than $2000. Their 200B model is also popular and a little cheaper.
 
The Alesis studio 24 is like $800 new.

I would find a nice used TASCAM on ebay.
 
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I've heard sketchy things about the Yamaha effects, but the mixer sounds great...especially for the price. The onboard effects (if they dont' suck) would be a nice option to have.
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Dunno. I've looked and haven't had any luck finding any reviews either. As long as it's quiet and has decent mic pres, looks like a good deal, even if the onboard effects aren't all that great.
Looks like it has 28 mono/mic pre channels too. Wonder if it has direct outs? Doesn't look like it, but with all the inserts on every channel, and alleged busses (4 stereo groups + 6 aux) it might not be a huge deal to figure out a way to record lots of tracks at the same time....
 
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