gullyjewelz
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OK, i just got a hold of the complete idiot's guide to home recording. there is a section on mixing -- has anyone used this guide to any positive results?
giraffe
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on what page does it officially declare recording "dead" as a viable career path?
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crunkthanamug
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gullyjewelz said:
I have a similar book ...PC recording studios for dummies... they are most likely very similar in terms of content. For mixing, IMO they are only really helpful in that they explain what the various plugins do. Its gonna take trial and error experimentation to really understand (by ear) what the book is talking about...but its got most of the basics covered.
gullyjewelz
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this book informs me that you can get "pro tools free" as a rec. software program that will work good for mixing, and following all of their tutorials in teh book. only thing is, i checked the site n it says that pro tools free will not run on xp -- any other way to get pro tools free for win xp?
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crunkthanamug
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gullyjewelz said:
No... and I believe Pro Tools requires specific hardware to work (either the Digi stuff or M Audio).
noisewreck
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Not PT Free.crunkthanamug said:
SouthSIDE Glen
independentrecording.net
Last I heard, the last and only version of PTFree they offered worked only on Win98.
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giraffe
i love negative rep
SouthSIDE Glen said:
and last i heard it blew goat nuts.
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Kryptik
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Man, I wish I were a goat.
giraffe
i love negative rep
LOLKryptik said:
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scott59
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My response is a little off-topic but it looks like there has been some drift anyway - so I don't feel too badly about it.
I've been poking around on this site since about January. Read a few of the basic primers that some of you have posted and then looked for threads that were of particular interest to me at the moment.
Back in June, I picked up one of those books - forget whether it was Dummies or Idiots or Morons or whatever. But anyway, when I scanned the chapters related to subjects of interest to me, I found out that I had already learned it all from the HR.com site. Was a real eye opener for me since it was almost totally unstructured learning and I'm an educator. And when I add up the time I spent poking around here and compare it to the time it would have taken me to absorb the contents of the book, I don't think they would be a whole lot different. Maybe a bit more time was needed here than if I just read the book - but this site has the advantage that you can get multiple opinions. And it's pretty self-regulating so you find out pretty quick if some advice is off the mark.
Conclusions:
(1) I may have to rethink my beliefs on how people learn.
(2) I don't know that I'll ever buy another how-to book.
(3) The people that help others here have my admiration. I can't really participate yet because I'm relatively new to this - but you motivate me to pay it forward in other areas that I do know something about.
Scott
I've been poking around on this site since about January. Read a few of the basic primers that some of you have posted and then looked for threads that were of particular interest to me at the moment.
Back in June, I picked up one of those books - forget whether it was Dummies or Idiots or Morons or whatever. But anyway, when I scanned the chapters related to subjects of interest to me, I found out that I had already learned it all from the HR.com site. Was a real eye opener for me since it was almost totally unstructured learning and I'm an educator. And when I add up the time I spent poking around here and compare it to the time it would have taken me to absorb the contents of the book, I don't think they would be a whole lot different. Maybe a bit more time was needed here than if I just read the book - but this site has the advantage that you can get multiple opinions. And it's pretty self-regulating so you find out pretty quick if some advice is off the mark.
Conclusions:
(1) I may have to rethink my beliefs on how people learn.
(2) I don't know that I'll ever buy another how-to book.
(3) The people that help others here have my admiration. I can't really participate yet because I'm relatively new to this - but you motivate me to pay it forward in other areas that I do know something about.
Scott
LfO
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scott59 - I don't know what you're field is, but I think home recording is unique (or at least at one end of a spectrum) in certain ways.
For one, the technology is changing fast, so books quickly become out of date.
Secondly, lets face it, we're a bunch of egomaniacs. People with big egos like to share their wisdom
- the fact that this is fun stuff comes into play.
Finally, since there's so much art (vs. science) involved in all this, experimentation and differing opinions are more important than in, say, foundation repair.
Those are my semi-random thoughts on the subject. I'm in grad school now, and I do the majority of my learning from my textbooks. After a full day of work, I can't concentrate enough on a lecture to get anything out of it anyway.
For one, the technology is changing fast, so books quickly become out of date.
Secondly, lets face it, we're a bunch of egomaniacs. People with big egos like to share their wisdom
- the fact that this is fun stuff comes into play. Finally, since there's so much art (vs. science) involved in all this, experimentation and differing opinions are more important than in, say, foundation repair.
Those are my semi-random thoughts on the subject. I'm in grad school now, and I do the majority of my learning from my textbooks. After a full day of work, I can't concentrate enough on a lecture to get anything out of it anyway.
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scott59
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Those are all excellent points LfO. I'm an engineer (chemical) and they all apply to my field too. Maybe point three a bit less than in home recording but points 1 and 2 are right up there!
SouthSIDE Glen
independentrecording.net
Scotty,
I wish you wouldn't advocate abandoning those books just yet. There are a couple of advantages to the books, one of which has a synergistic positive effect on the effacacy of this board> Think of it this way...
If everybody (or a resonable percentage, anyway) checked out one of those books first before coming here there'd be two positive effects. The first would be that each of thses people would be working from common and proven info sources, increasing the rookie signal-to-noise ration on this board and cutting down the number of *basic* disagreements caused by lack of facts. The second positive effect would be the reduction in the number of basic intro questions that are asked over and over again on this board, freeing up time and bandwidth for threads on topics that are not already well-documented here and everywhere ad-nauseum.
I'm glad this board has been so helpful and useful for you
. However in a perfect world (HA!) I'd like to think that there'd be a bit less of an overlap between already available material and the dynamic threads on this board. To paraphrase Elvis P.: "A little less conversation, a little more page action."
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I wish you wouldn't advocate abandoning those books just yet. There are a couple of advantages to the books, one of which has a synergistic positive effect on the effacacy of this board> Think of it this way...
If everybody (or a resonable percentage, anyway) checked out one of those books first before coming here there'd be two positive effects. The first would be that each of thses people would be working from common and proven info sources, increasing the rookie signal-to-noise ration on this board and cutting down the number of *basic* disagreements caused by lack of facts. The second positive effect would be the reduction in the number of basic intro questions that are asked over and over again on this board, freeing up time and bandwidth for threads on topics that are not already well-documented here and everywhere ad-nauseum.
I'm glad this board has been so helpful and useful for you
. However in a perfect world (HA!) I'd like to think that there'd be a bit less of an overlap between already available material and the dynamic threads on this board. To paraphrase Elvis P.: "A little less conversation, a little more page action." G.
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Preface...giraffe said:
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scott59
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SouthSIDE Glen said:
You're not the only one Glen - I woke up today with the thought, "My God! Did you actually advocate NOT reading a book? Were you on drugs?"
Probably what I should have said was - I would rather see books that were organized more consistently with how I think people (i.e. me) learn this stuff - more discovery and experiencial based than linear. (Kinda how, based on his "popular" books, I think Feymann would do it
) Maybe there are how-to books for recording that take this approach - I certainly haven't done any real search. But somehow the web seems more suited to this methodology than does a book.As to any possible concern that my statement will be taken to heart: Those who would do so won't read this thread anyway
See ya
Scott
SouthSIDE Glen
independentrecording.net
*sigh* Sad, but painfully true.scott59 said:As to any possible concern that my statement will be taken to heart: Those who would do so won't read this thread anyway
As for the Feynman idea, I can see it now: "He mixes music just by thinking!"
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LfO
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I think the online equivalent of a book is ideal - that's why I (and many others here) send nearly every newbie to tweakheadz.com - its like a free book that stays up to date.
SouthSIDE Glen
independentrecording.net
I'm not saying you're wrong, this is one of those opinion things only, but for me there is no substitute for a physical book. The Internet is a great library, but the computer is a lousy book.LfO said:
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