sjoko2
New member
This week Alesis has file d for bankrupcy and fired most of their workforce.
They are now in Chapter 11
Hope someone will buy them
They are now in Chapter 11
Hope someone will buy them
Blue Bear Sound
New member
Where did you get this info sjoko2? I looked but can't find ANYTHING on it???
Alesis customer support is still active..........
Bruce
Alesis customer support is still active..........
Bruce
sjoko2
New member
They are still working, just fired a load of people.
Chapter 7 is the first stage of bankrupcy, which provides temporary protection from creditors.
Banks called their loans in weeks ago.
So now they are seeking to re-finance or a purchaser, if not, they will go into chapter 7, which means kaput.
Its a fact, not hearsay. and of cause, nothing they would voluntarily broadcast. In the meantime they are just carrying on.
Chapter 7 is the first stage of bankrupcy, which provides temporary protection from creditors.
Banks called their loans in weeks ago.
So now they are seeking to re-finance or a purchaser, if not, they will go into chapter 7, which means kaput.
Its a fact, not hearsay. and of cause, nothing they would voluntarily broadcast. In the meantime they are just carrying on.
Blue Bear Sound
New member
I beleive you!
I wasn't questioning your info, I was only looking for more details!
That bit 'o news really sucks though...............
Bruce
I wasn't questioning your info, I was only looking for more details!
That bit 'o news really sucks though...............
Bruce
sjoko2
New member
Yup it does, but so does the Euphonics thing.
No doubt alesis will survive - they have a strong product line which someone will buy or invest in. Looks like they relied to long on ADAT.
Oh, how do I know? Just have a lot of contacts in the manufacturing industry, and my partner owns a well known equipment manufacturer.
No doubt alesis will survive - they have a strong product line which someone will buy or invest in. Looks like they relied to long on ADAT.
Oh, how do I know? Just have a lot of contacts in the manufacturing industry, and my partner owns a well known equipment manufacturer.
sjoko2
New member
And to carry on in that vein ....... the "for sale" sign is up at Steinberg as well
Just shows you how closely the "new" music business is linked to the whole dot com thing.
Perhaps this is an opportunity for some of these companies to fall into the hands of audio, rather than software professionals, which would definately be a huge bonus
Just shows you how closely the "new" music business is linked to the whole dot com thing.
Perhaps this is an opportunity for some of these companies to fall into the hands of audio, rather than software professionals, which would definately be a huge bonus
Shailat
New member
Or worse..... fall into the hands of 2 big companies that buy them out and create a Monopol there for - rasing prices due to lack of competition...........
No competition is bad news for Audio related users.
No competition is bad news for Audio related users.
sjoko2
New member
Yup, there is always that possibility, sometimes its a good thing, sometimes bad, depends on who buys them
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Sound Cracker
New member
Alesis just stuck their noses into aspects of the audio business they didn't belong in. There crap PCI card, and the over-priced Masterlink proved that.
When they bought GT mics, well, that should have told everyone something.
I don't think keeping the ADAT line hurt them a bit, it was probably the only thing making and money. It was their insistence on staying with the 3630, and their whole monitor speaker line, as well as their rather crappy mixers that probably did them in. Just too much other stuff out their that fly's better with the consumer in the same price range.
I think too that they held on waaaaaaaaaaaaay too long with their keyboards and sound module lines. Too little product for any price really. That whole "micro" thing they had just could never pay off. For just a bit more, everyone was putting out more versatile products.
Let us not talk about their entrance into the electronic drum market. I have a friend who is a drummer who worked for Alesis (at least up until last week) who said he would NEVER use those at a gig, and would probably favor a cheap real drumset for practice purposes and risk sound complaints. He felt they were that bad.
Alesis needed to grow up and make a stronger showing in the professional market. They never did. They also needed to stay away from anything that had to do with a hard drive, but they didn't.
Their doom is eminent!
I say good, it don't come soon enough. Possibly the market share they took with their somewhat cheaply made products can go to companies that made more dependable, more versatile gear. Companies that are maybe a bit more in touch with making products that don't have inherent flaws.
The upside is that Alesis's best selling product line, the ADAT is an easy machine to figure out by bench tech's, so support for the machines will still be around for a long time. With the fact that an ADAT is a glorified SVHS recorder so the parts are readily available (that was part of the whole original ADAT concept, and the reason they could build the machine for so little money) current users of the format shouldn't worry too much about getting them fixed (something that seemed to happen a lot.....)
Yes, I am a bit pissed at Alesis. They were are the forefront of the whole "make it cheap and they will buy" era that recording gear is in.
I suspect that Mackie is not far behind. They spend way too much money on international advertising to keep at their pace.
A disgrunteled past Alesis product line buyer.
Good Day!
When they bought GT mics, well, that should have told everyone something.
I don't think keeping the ADAT line hurt them a bit, it was probably the only thing making and money. It was their insistence on staying with the 3630, and their whole monitor speaker line, as well as their rather crappy mixers that probably did them in. Just too much other stuff out their that fly's better with the consumer in the same price range.
I think too that they held on waaaaaaaaaaaaay too long with their keyboards and sound module lines. Too little product for any price really. That whole "micro" thing they had just could never pay off. For just a bit more, everyone was putting out more versatile products.
Let us not talk about their entrance into the electronic drum market. I have a friend who is a drummer who worked for Alesis (at least up until last week) who said he would NEVER use those at a gig, and would probably favor a cheap real drumset for practice purposes and risk sound complaints. He felt they were that bad.
Alesis needed to grow up and make a stronger showing in the professional market. They never did. They also needed to stay away from anything that had to do with a hard drive, but they didn't.
Their doom is eminent!
I say good, it don't come soon enough. Possibly the market share they took with their somewhat cheaply made products can go to companies that made more dependable, more versatile gear. Companies that are maybe a bit more in touch with making products that don't have inherent flaws.
The upside is that Alesis's best selling product line, the ADAT is an easy machine to figure out by bench tech's, so support for the machines will still be around for a long time. With the fact that an ADAT is a glorified SVHS recorder so the parts are readily available (that was part of the whole original ADAT concept, and the reason they could build the machine for so little money) current users of the format shouldn't worry too much about getting them fixed (something that seemed to happen a lot.....)
Yes, I am a bit pissed at Alesis. They were are the forefront of the whole "make it cheap and they will buy" era that recording gear is in.
I suspect that Mackie is not far behind. They spend way too much money on international advertising to keep at their pace.
A disgrunteled past Alesis product line buyer.
Good Day!
Track Rat
Just Your Average Sized Member
I for one would mourn their passing. I was just reading some very good things about the new hard disc recorder. Hell, I was thinking about buying one just for the converters. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001517.html
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carguymike
New member
Unsettling
You know .... half the gear in my studio was/is Alesis. And almost everything has something wrong with it! Bought a Qs 7.1 awhile back. Used it on a gig & when I went to put it the road case, the right side came off in my hand! And I've had quite a time getting their pc card to work properly with Logic Gold. Maybe someone will take over & do a proper overhaul on the product line. My AI3 only works when it's warmed up. My Midiverb backlite is on intergalactic display mode (quite interesting!), Studio32 power supply has gone to lunch, SR16 is too damn hard to figure out, nanocomp works only when IT wants, RA-100 seems ok, LX20 works great, 3630 has actually been ok. I know I'm getting old when I look at my 25 year old TEAC A3340S and wish that was what I could use on a daily basis. Sure, modern editing techniques are great, but equipment reliability seems a thing of the past. My old TEAC still works perfectly. I'll keep it forever!
You know .... half the gear in my studio was/is Alesis. And almost everything has something wrong with it! Bought a Qs 7.1 awhile back. Used it on a gig & when I went to put it the road case, the right side came off in my hand! And I've had quite a time getting their pc card to work properly with Logic Gold. Maybe someone will take over & do a proper overhaul on the product line. My AI3 only works when it's warmed up. My Midiverb backlite is on intergalactic display mode (quite interesting!), Studio32 power supply has gone to lunch, SR16 is too damn hard to figure out, nanocomp works only when IT wants, RA-100 seems ok, LX20 works great, 3630 has actually been ok. I know I'm getting old when I look at my 25 year old TEAC A3340S and wish that was what I could use on a daily basis. Sure, modern editing techniques are great, but equipment reliability seems a thing of the past. My old TEAC still works perfectly. I'll keep it forever!
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The Green Hornet
New member
Yo Crackers of Sound:
You are right on the money when you mention the Alesis Synthesizers, [other posts too] I had one as a back-up to my Yam DX-7. It was one of the Q models.
The view screen was made for hawks, which can see 8 times better than humans. Small, very small. Manual, well, you all know about manuals. Quality sound? Never even came close to the DX-7 which is a pretty old product. Would you believe the battery in my DX7 is still pumping after more than ten years?
I sold the Alesis keyboard. The only other piece of Alesis gear in my studio is a Midiverb which isn't too bad but the Lexicon 100 I also use is better -- 24 bit sound processing is good stuff.
Been thinking about the Alesis Masterlink but I kind of thought it was overpriced. Still looking and talking to the site for information.
Green Hornet
You are right on the money when you mention the Alesis Synthesizers, [other posts too] I had one as a back-up to my Yam DX-7. It was one of the Q models.
The view screen was made for hawks, which can see 8 times better than humans. Small, very small. Manual, well, you all know about manuals. Quality sound? Never even came close to the DX-7 which is a pretty old product. Would you believe the battery in my DX7 is still pumping after more than ten years?
I sold the Alesis keyboard. The only other piece of Alesis gear in my studio is a Midiverb which isn't too bad but the Lexicon 100 I also use is better -- 24 bit sound processing is good stuff.
Been thinking about the Alesis Masterlink but I kind of thought it was overpriced. Still looking and talking to the site for information.
Green Hornet
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BigKahuna
New member
hmm that's pretty depressing news ... 
But I think you're right ... with some new blood and new capital ... the company will continue on ...
I actually like the Q-series synths (my bro has a Q8) ... I think some of the sounds are better than my Kurzweil. The only other Alesis gear I have are LX20 (no problems there) and a Wedge (not bad for a $99 desktop novelty ... *love* that audition button)...
Still, sorry to hear that their having financial problems ... but I think you all are right ... their foray into mics and apparent reluctance to provide HD recorders probably contributed to their downfall.
But I think you're right ... with some new blood and new capital ... the company will continue on ...
I actually like the Q-series synths (my bro has a Q8) ... I think some of the sounds are better than my Kurzweil. The only other Alesis gear I have are LX20 (no problems there) and a Wedge (not bad for a $99 desktop novelty ... *love* that audition button
)...Still, sorry to hear that their having financial problems ... but I think you all are right ... their foray into mics and apparent reluctance to provide HD recorders probably contributed to their downfall.
dragonworks
Banned
I think we should pool our resources and buy Alesis?
At least come alongside and give her a broadside then board her.
At least come alongside and give her a broadside then board her.
sjoko2
New member
Or just pretend to and say we need samples of products for investigation by the potential investors???
sonusman
Banned
Good riddance!
I may just have to drive the death stake a little deeper by pursuing the Class Action Suit against them for that totally bogus, misrepresented, SCSI drive needing PCI card they now offer for less then HALF what I paid for it (and it is still not even worth that little money!)
It was shit like that, and the fact that they put a lot of money into the Masterlink that made them go broke. The Masterlink was a bad idea. Imagine a "mastering" machine with NO GUI!!! No ability to use third party processing!!! They shot themselves in the foot by making it so proprietary. It is not even that great of a product in the first place not to open it up to other stuff running on it. But I tell ya, not being able to view the waveforms for editing was just plain stupid. The box doesn't even HAVE a way to do that.
The ADAT's were plagued with transport problems from day one. Sure, you could purchase the M20 and get reliability, but they dropped the price on them way too late. Nobody wants to pay $4k for an 8 track recorder, and certainly nobody was willing to pay $8k for it, otherwise they wouldn't have had to cut the price in half. When they did that, I had a feeling that they were ready to start going under.
Anyway. If someone DOES in fact bail them out, look for a very limited product line for sure.
A very pissed off "past" Alesis customer
Ed
I may just have to drive the death stake a little deeper by pursuing the Class Action Suit against them for that totally bogus, misrepresented, SCSI drive needing PCI card they now offer for less then HALF what I paid for it (and it is still not even worth that little money!)
It was shit like that, and the fact that they put a lot of money into the Masterlink that made them go broke. The Masterlink was a bad idea. Imagine a "mastering" machine with NO GUI!!! No ability to use third party processing!!! They shot themselves in the foot by making it so proprietary. It is not even that great of a product in the first place not to open it up to other stuff running on it. But I tell ya, not being able to view the waveforms for editing was just plain stupid. The box doesn't even HAVE a way to do that.
The ADAT's were plagued with transport problems from day one. Sure, you could purchase the M20 and get reliability, but they dropped the price on them way too late. Nobody wants to pay $4k for an 8 track recorder, and certainly nobody was willing to pay $8k for it, otherwise they wouldn't have had to cut the price in half. When they did that, I had a feeling that they were ready to start going under.
Anyway. If someone DOES in fact bail them out, look for a very limited product line for sure.
A very pissed off "past" Alesis customer
Ed
sonusman
Banned
Oh, and with some new money, maybe pursuing that class action suit would be more of a bounty for all involved....
Obviously I am trying to get them to file a slander suit against me.....
Now wouldn't THAT be something? 
Ed
Obviously I am trying to get them to file a slander suit against me.....
Now wouldn't THAT be something? Ed
sjoko2
New member
I'm very very sorry sonus ........ they can't do that
(no money to pay the lawyers
(no money to pay the lawyers
ruebarb
New member
I better get my ADAT back
I called customer service yesterday - It's in the repair queue - it'll take about 3 weeks - -
Better get it working before they fall apart...that's all I can say...
I don't see them completely dying - ADAT's are so popular in studios around the world, but it's easy to see why' they'd diversify a bit - and make some clunkers
I called customer service yesterday - It's in the repair queue - it'll take about 3 weeks - -
Better get it working before they fall apart...that's all I can say...
I don't see them completely dying - ADAT's are so popular in studios around the world, but it's easy to see why' they'd diversify a bit - and make some clunkers
JFogarty
New member
Difversify? They already make a product in like every catagory. geez, they should stick to one thing, and make it really well....