AI Vocals - I have to say I'm really impressed.

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I downloaded a demo of synthesizer V studio 2 Pro and thought I'd see how simple it really was, rather than take the word of the youtubers and the manufacturer.

It's really intuitive. I found a box marked tempo, another gave me a click. Without even setting anything, it picked up my MIDI keyboard and played a tone for each note. I tried pressing record and played in a simple melody. On the screen is a piano roll type display of each note. each one says 'la' - and sure enough the voice selected in the box on the screen sings la - loads of adjustments for the type of singing brash and loud or soft or breathy - loads of choices on knobs. Then you double click on the 'la' and type in words for each note, and the damn thing just works. The basic, not editing, not clever state made an amazingly good job. Next thing is importing a music track. I grabbed one Cubase had produced, and set the tempo. I pressed play, and the track started and I played in the matching melody. Swapped the 'la' sound for lyrics and then there's a box to export the vocal track. Bringing that into cubase, and job done.

The demo didn't allow the export, but the demo lets you try out the male and female voices and I found one I liked, and bought a bundle with that voice. For what I do, I now have a singer on tap with very little work. You can of course edit to a crazy degree to change how complex phrases can be done - but worth checking youtube videos for some of the examples. I never thought I'd be into AI vocals, but I can see how useful it can be. I'm not certain people will spot it isn't real.

 
I have spent an hour on this. I brought in the instrumental track from cubase. played a pretty feeble melody from memory on the keyboard. It produced a 'la la' version as default. Googled the real lyrics and discovered my melody wasn't quite right - but words sort of fitted, and then I tweaked note lengths and pitches - probably spent ten minutes, and no use of the zillions of features. What do you think?
 

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It's remarkable. Incredible. Amazing.

And again - whether it's video or audio - the only thing that is a little unsettling to me - is knowing that I *now* live in a world where I can't tell what's real and what's artificial. <--- that's new.

 
It's remarkable. Incredible. Amazing.

And again - whether it's video or audio - the only thing that is a little unsettling to me - is knowing that I *now* live in a world where I can't tell what's real and what's artificial. <--- that's new.


I can tell about 95% of the time - in this Boats case it’s doesn’t react right - the boat is to weird.
 
I have spent an hour on this. I brought in the instrumental track from cubase. played a pretty feeble melody from memory on the keyboard. It produced a 'la la' version as default. Googled the real lyrics and discovered my melody wasn't quite right - but words sort of fitted, and then I tweaked note lengths and pitches - probably spent ten minutes, and no use of the zillions of features. What do you think?
It sounds artificial to me - especially on the tail outs - but it is interesting to hear.
 
I can tell about 95% of the time - in this Boats case it’s doesn’t react right - the boat is to weird.
Yeah - I know that dude. :facepalm: Sheesh. That is not the point. The point is it only takes a little more work and you won't be able to detect it.
 
The thing is the editing is very similar to Cubase's pitch corection where you can go in and tweak and hone - in those examples, the actual settings were the default - all I did were fix a couple of wrong notes in what I played, remove one or two totally, and then shorten or lengthen each note. No editing apart from that. With the level of adjustments I can find on the surface, let alone in other menus - it's going to be quite a good way to create stuff. In most cases, you type in a word and it works out how it should sound phonetically. I chose the voice from what they have, and they gave me a male voice too as a freebie - I'm wondering that if I do anything with the voice, do I need to invent a name for 'her'?

I think you can store the adjustments you make to the voices, but I wonder if I'll be able to detect the same voice on other people's stuff?
 
I think you can store the adjustments you make to the voices, but I wonder if I'll be able to detect the same voice on other people's stuff?
I assume that, eventually, there will be a sea of vocal/voice type options.
 
I have spent an hour on this. I brought in the instrumental track from cubase. played a pretty feeble melody from memory on the keyboard. It produced a 'la la' version as default. Googled the real lyrics and discovered my melody wasn't quite right - but words sort of fitted, and then I tweaked note lengths and pitches - probably spent ten minutes, and no use of the zillions of features. What do you think?
She sounds real. I was eyeing her up while listening.
 
And again - whether it's video or audio - the only thing that is a little unsettling to me - is knowing that I *now* live in a world where I can't tell what's real and what's artificial. <--- that's new.
Thst video came up on my feed a few days ago.
There seemed to be a vague 'black' area where the boat meets the big hole.
Also, everybody in the boat stayed put in their seats as it heads down the hole at quite an angle.
We'll be getting a lot more of this.
 
We'll be getting a lot more of this.
Agree. And - absolutely do not mean to derail the topic - but this is the tip of the iceberg. The audio and video will get better and better. People are now manipulated (heavily) just with basic information. Deceiving folks with audio and video is upon us. Be careful out there!
 
I am imagining software coming that will allow me to have Eddie Vedder, or Jay Buchanan, or Sara Bareilles, or Brandi Carlile.... "sing" on my own track. And of course - even if there become legal roadblocks to that (something I would support) - people will still find ways of doing that.

Current A.I. technology = Tip. Of. The. Iceberg.
 
Try this. The phrasing is still a bit sticky in places, and its quite difficult to actually play a melody while looking at the words - the syllables don't seem to fit sometimes. STILL none of the advanced editing features - so I am still very much a novice, but like most clever stuff, practice seems to be working better all the time.
 

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The AI voice generation is very impressive, and having a tool like that would be ver handy. However, it is also a bit sad that we are losing humans in this process
Yeah, this. I kind of stayed out of this thread for this reason, but, well...

...music is one of the most fundamentally human forms of connection and communication. It kills me that we're taking AI and using it to make illustrations and music and art, and not using it to free me up from all the credit and economic research I do to allow me to make art.

I feel dirty even knowing it's theoretically possible to replace a human being vocalist with a computer. I don't think this is something to celebrate.
 
Story on TV yesterday, about children not allowed to use AI for doing their homework.
BUT teachers are allowed to use AI for marking that homework.
 
The full story on that wasnt reported very well. The AI reveals the kids who are cheating, as apparently AI responses create finger prints to identify sources. I was the UK Principal Examiner for A Level Music Technology, but I also did Performing Arts for a long time and AI hadn't been invented. Part of my job was to go to schools and colleges all over the UK where their results had been flagged as ‘worthy of investigation’. I went to one where I was shown some excellent work by an 18 year old. I said I agreed, but such a shame they didnt fix the typo on the NEXT page. The teacher looked confused but turned the page and there was the word ‘luminary’ instead of ‘luminaire’. The student had copied and pasted the entire thing from MY website! If you are going to cheat, best not to steal it from the man who was there to check the teachers ability to spot cheating!
 
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I mean, how far do we go back? I think it is something that is here and that Genie isn't going back in. But for me, I will still craft and learn, using technology to improve. To be honest, I really don't want a car that has been hand built. I don't listen to the first vinyl records of first record players.

We just have to be like the Amish and determine when we are going to stop using technology :)
 
The full story on that wasnt reported very well. The AI reveals the kids who are cheating, as apparently AI responses create finger prints to identify sources. I was the UK Principal Examiner for A Level Music Technology, but I also did Performing Arts for a long time and AI hadn't been invented. Part of my job was to go to schools and colleges all over the UK where their results had been flagged as ‘worthy of investigation’. I went to one where I was shown some excellent work by an 18 year old. I said I agreed, but such a shame they didnt fix the typo on the NEXT page. The teacher looked confused but turned the page and there was the word ‘luminary’ instead of ‘luminaire’. The student had copied and pasted the entire thing from MY website! If you are going to cheat, best not to steal it from the man who was there to check the teachers ability to spot cheating!
Similar story in one of my previous jobs.
We were producing software for an aircraft cockpit instrument.
An instrument used only during take-off and landing, the most dangerous part of a flight.
There were formal quality and traceability requirements for that software, on the grounds of safety.
My boss, the 'Chief Designer' (Ha, yeah right), falsified the records, and then submitted the document for the client's approval.
He'd put my name as author to the document, without my knowledge.
When I returned from holiday, and inspected the document, I discovered major gaffes.
The records presented were chronologically impossible, despite being signed off by the quality manager.
If you're going to falsify the records, at least make them add up.
I'd had enough of it, and resigned.
 
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