Agile Septor 727 pro review

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Ok, so i get asked all the time for a review of this guitar I have. I just figured i would tell you guys alittle about it.
First off, for a no-name brand, agile's are amazing. I use to be a real big fan of ESP's, owning alot of them in the past. Agile is kind of a big deal for the musician on a budget who is looking for an extended scale 6, 7, 8, and yeah they even make a 9 string guitar. The quality is pretty excellent, I think I got my 27 inch scale 7 string, neck through, active pups, beautiful quilt top all for around 625 after shipping. Not to bad at all. There are some down sides to this guitar, that I feel could have been cheaply fixed though. So if any reps from Agile read this, take not now.
The down sides, seven stringer's are almost impossible to find strings for right now. I have been to two differnt guitar centers, and 2 mom and pop shops trying to score some strings. Forget about that, you will have to order them online, if you want any kind of decent set of strings. Not only are strings hard to find, but baritone strings really, really forget it. Solution-locking tuners...I went to warmoth and bought 7 individual locking tuners, replaced them out for the stock, problem solved. Other than the sear impossible task of finding strings, and length of the strings, this guitar is awesome. I feel sorry for the guy who wants a 828, the eight string 28 inch scale. Well, I hope this review is helpful, and if you guys have any more questions, please ask. I am more than willing to help anyone make a decision to go to a new instrument, and that is more or less what going from a 6 string to a baritone 7 is. Be prepared to miss notes like crazy, but once you get a feel for it, you won't go back, I love the having all those extra frets, makes shred guitar/virtuoso style playing so much more enjoyable.
 
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The down sides, seven stringer's are almost impossible to find strings for right now. I have been to two differnt guitar centers, and 2 mom and pop shops trying to score some strings. Forget about that, you will have to order them online, if you want any kind of decent set of strings.
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Not sure where you're getting them, but I swear by Strings, Instrument Strings, Music Strings for Guitar, Bass, Mandolin, Fiddle and More. Fast shipping (of course, they're close to me), and a staggering selection - if it has strings, they probably carry them. Great prices, too.

I'm an Elixir user (which, if you haven't tried, I highly recommend their Nanowebs for seven strings - they sound fresh for months, and that low B turns to mush quickly as strings die), and while Elixir doesn't (or didn't, last I checked) make 7-string sets, JustStrings stocks individual Elixirs as well so I usually mate a set of 10s with a .68 low B.
 
Yeah, I think I have visited that site before, like I said, you really have to shop online if you wanna find strings. And yeah, my 6 strings only have elixers on them. I love those strings, if they sell a seven string set that would be awesome.
 
Nathan1984 said:
Ok, so i get asked all the time for a review of this guitar I have. I just figured i would tell you guys alittle about it.
First off, for a no-name brand, agile's are amazing. I use to be a real big fan of ESP's, owning alot of them in the past. Agile is kind of a big deal for the musician on a budget who is looking for an extended scale 6, 7, 8, and yeah they even make a 9 string guitar. The quality is pretty excellent, I think I got my 27 inch scale 7 string, neck through, active pups, beautiful quilt top all for around 625 after shipping. Not to bad at all. There are some down sides to this guitar, that I feel could have been cheaply fixed though. So if any reps from Agile read this, take not now.
The down sides, seven stringer's are almost impossible to find strings for right now. I have been to two differnt guitar centers, and 2 mom and pop shops trying to score some strings. Forget about that, you will have to order them online, if you want any kind of decent set of strings. Not only are strings hard to find, but baritone strings really, really forget it. Solution-locking tuners...I went to warmoth and bought 7 individual locking tuners, replaced them out for the stock, problem solved. Other than the sear impossible task of finding strings, and length of the strings, this guitar is awesome. I feel sorry for the guy who wants a 828, the eight string 28 inch scale. Well, I hope this review is helpful, and if you guys have any more questions, please ask. I am more than willing to help anyone make a decision to go to a new instrument, and that is more or less what going from a 6 string to a baritone 7 is. Be prepared to miss notes like crazy, but once you get a feel for it, you won't go back, I love the having all those extra frets, makes shred guitar/virtuoso style playing so much more enjoyable.
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Sorry but what problem was solved by locking tuners?
 
With a baritone, strings where not long enough to be wrapped on the tuning posts. I have actually talked to other guys that had the same issue, I replaced the stock tuners with schaller locking tuners and it eliminates the problem, because it locks the strings into the tuning post. Smart thing to invest in, especially if you don't have a dozen sets of strings that may be long enough, you don't wanna have a show and bust a string and only have a six string set available with out, you will run into that problem.
 
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With a baritone, strings where not long enough to be wrapped on the tuning posts. I have actually talked to other guys that had the same issue, I replaced the stock tuners with schaller locking tuners and it eliminates the problem, because it locks the strings into the tuning post. Smart thing to invest in, especially if you don't have a dozen sets of strings that may be long enough, you don't wanna have a show and bust a string and only have a six string set available with out, you will run into that problem.
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Really? I've had that problem on a XL scale bass before since generally the thicker strings are only wound to full diameter for a partion of the way, but as a guy who's pretty active in the online seven string/metal guitar world, plays sevens the majority of the time, and has a 26.5" scale seven within about six feet of him as he types this, I've never had or run into that problem on a guitar.
 
Well, my tuners are inline 7 string tuners. Are your tuners in line or are they 4+3 or something, because I know a few people that have had trouble with agiles at least. They have the 7 inline tuners and I had trouble with stable tuning because I couldn't get a very good wrap on the low b string tuning peg.
 
Yeah, the Agiles are ridiculously long scaled. I have read a few reviews on them and they, so far, have been mixed. The most common complaint is that they come delivered with poor fit and finish. A few have alluded that they doubt that the guitars are ever touched by a human after being strung and need professionally set up right out of the box.
 
Mine wasn't to bad, it did need set up, but anyone that has been around can take care of that themselves. My guitar is the Agile Septor 727 pro and it looks amazing. The only thing I could really complain about would be the stock pups aren't the greatest, really good clean tones, but aweful for high gain metal. I think I will swap those for seymour duncan blackouts.
 
Certainly not knocking them. I've been looking at them for a bit myself. The set-up thing isn't so much a problem for me because I know my way around a guitar well. Your description of the stock pickups comes as no surprise as that's generally the case for most stock pickups.
 
Yeah, they do have elite models that have emg's or duncans already in them, which probably wouldn't be a bad deal, it would probably be cheaper than buying a cheaper model, then upgrading.
 
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Well, my tuners are inline 7 string tuners. Are your tuners in line or are they 4+3 or something, because I know a few people that have had trouble with agiles at least. They have the 7 inline tuners and I had trouble with stable tuning because I couldn't get a very good wrap on the low b string tuning peg.
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Both. And, like I said, I know a LOT of seven stringers. I used to mod over at sevenstring.org and I'm an admin at metalguitarist.org, and I've never heard that complaint. How many wraps do you generally put around the tuning peg?
 
I normally try to get at least three wraps, the string that really was to short was the low b string, I only got about one wrap on the peg, and it would slip out of tune, I would by 6 string sets and buy an extra low string for the b. I could buy a bass string that would work I'm sure, but I would rather just have locking tuners and use whatever gauge I want, and not have to use a bass string.
 
I had an 8 string septor ash.

Neck felt good (it actually felt better than what ibanez offers because there is some girth to it, fucking hate thin necks).

Pickups were some of the worst I have ever gotten on a stock instrument.

I had a bitch of a time finding strings long enough for the last 2 tuning pegs (the reverse headstock meant the B and F# strings had to be long, I never had to trim anything I found).

Ultimately got rid of it because the extra 5 notes were stupid and all I ever ended up playing was stupid Meshuggah riffs. Some of the arp patterns you could play on it were cool though.


Oh and on another note, putting bass strings on a guitar (even a baritone) is fucking stupid. A .068 is plenty thick enough for a low F# (I suppose a .070/or .072 feels a little better).

Oh and the only strings I found that fit (barely) were made by Danelectro (baritone strings). Ernie Ball had a set, but there were around an inch to short.
 
My 8 string had really good balance to it. I think anything with that body style (strat) is going to be balanced well.
 
yeah, my agile is excellent, besides the horrible pickups. I am gonna throw some duncan black outs or emg's in there. Then I couldn't ask for a better 7 string.
 
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