Adding Effects To My Recordings

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Rick,

I visited that link but you could do with posting more details here as well.

As it happens, I use Sonar 5 and own a Lexicon MPX 500.

To be honest, I never thought of doing what you are trying to incorprate it into my Sonar set-up... good idea BTW...

So, let me think... I'm not fully familiar with the 1212M but as far as I can make out you have a number of different I/O types including ADAT and S/PDIF.

Providing you are not using the S/PDIF I/O for anything else then I guess you could just hook up straight to the MPX 500.

Within Sonar 5 you will then firstly need to create a new stereo bus and set it's output to S/PDIF.

You then need to get that signal back into Sonar and I can only think that you'd need to create a dedicated stereo audio track for this purpose... call it MPX500 and set it's input to your 1212M S/PDIF. You can then route the output of this channel either straight to another effects bus for further processing or just route it directly to your main output bus.



Did that make any sense?


regards


andy




oh... if you are OK with MIDI you could also hook up to the MIDI connections of your MPX 500 and be able to select patches and also tweek the various parameters via a MIDI track within Sonar...
 
Hmmm... oh dear...

I've just looked at your screenshots again at that other BB. I'm not familiar at all with the 1212M and the method that I am trying to explain just uses the S/PDIF connections of your effects unit and soundcard and ONLY the Sonar 5software. I'm not sure what to do at all with your 1212M software console but I would have thought that you could have left that alone. Unless there are parameters you need to set to enable the S/PDIF conections for use on your soundcard.

I'll try to go over that again but in a little more detail this time...

First, connect the S/PDIF output of your 1212M to the S/PDIF input of the MPX500 and then connect the S/PDIF output of the MPX500 to the S/PDIF input of the 1212M.

Next, on the MPX500, press the System button to bring up the system menu. Use the #1 Edit knob to select the Input Source value, the default value is Analog Stereo. Use the #3 Edit knob to change it to S/PDIF Digital. The Digital Output should be left as default which is Processed. Your hardware should now be ready for use.

Now for the softeware...

In Sonar you need to add a new stereo bus. I find it easier to do this in the Console window so press Alt+3 (or View menu > Console) to bring it up. At the far right hand side of the sreen you should be able to see your main output plus any other busses you've added. Your first screenshot indicates that you may only have one bus there at the moment (unless there are others hidden at the moment. And that bus is your main out called Master.

Right click in the Bus Pane and select Insert Stereo Bus. You should now see a new bus and it'll be called Bus 2 or something like that. Double click on the Bus name and change it to MPX500. That will make it easier to find when you create a send later on.

You now need to set the output routing of your MPX500 bus. Click on the downward pointing triangle in the rectangular box that may well be saying something like E-MU ASIO ASIO 31/32 and you need to select whatever the E-MU S/PDIF output channel is called.

Next, you need to create a send within each and every audio channel that you want to send to the MPX500 effects unit. So, start with Track 1, which you have called Audio 1. I notice that you've already got a send in there called Effect Send 1. I also notice that you haven't turned that send on which you do by clicking on the little square just below the right pointing arrow inside the Effect Send 1 rectangle. Perhaps this is your problem... I'm getting confused myself now... but I'll carry on...

So, right click somewhere in clear space within the Audio 1 channel and select Insert Send > MPX500 from the flyout menu. You should now have a new send... turn it on as I described earlier so that the little box goes green.

If you play your song now, whatever is on Audio 1 will also be sent to the MPX500 bus and the meters should be moving. You meters should also be moving on the MPX500 too.

We now need to get that signal back into Sonar 5. To do this we need to ad a new audio channel and call it MPX500. You now need to set the Input value of this new channel to your E-MU ASIO ASIO S/PDIF input (may be called something slightly different). The output should really be set to Master which is the name of your main output bus. I notice from the screenshot of Sonar that all your other audio channels are routed to E-MU ASIO ASIO31/32 which in my opinion is incorrect. You will get a signal at the particular output you are pointing to but you should really be sending all the audio channels to your Master Fader unless you are mixing "out of the box". Unless I'm missing something here...


I think I've done about as much as I can for the moment with the knowledge I have. I think I know someone on the 'net who has one of these 1212M beasties so I'll have a chat to him to see if he can shed any light on that side of things.


Keep trying and come back straight away if you have any success (or not)


andy
 
Thank-you Andy, I will try that out and get back to you on that, really appreciate the help, thanks!
 
Hi Andy,

I was not able to get things to work so far. There is also the issue of setting up the send/return for the soundcard also, so that makes things more complex for me. I will look into the soundcard issues first, then work on what you outlined for me here, then I will get back to you, thanks! I was able to get the effects to work for listening to the recordings or for monitoring while recording by adding a send/return to the soundcard output, the out 31/32, but that was all.
 
Rick Shepherd said:
Hi Andy,

I was not able to get things to work so far. There is also the issue of setting up the send/return for the soundcard also, so that makes things more complex for me. I will look into the soundcard issues first, then work on what you outlined for me here, then I will get back to you, thanks! I was able to get the effects to work for listening to the recordings or for monitoring while recording by adding a send/return to the soundcard output, the out 31/32, but that was all.
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OK Rick... and no problem... I'm here to help when I can.

I had a quick chat with a guy at another board who uses the 1820M rather than the 1212M and he says that the software interface is the same for each. We didn't go into details because he tells me that there's a bit more to it than you thinks because the card has it's own effects on board amongst other things.

If I can get hold of a manual on PDF I might be able to suss something out from that... I've tried to get one from the E-MU site but no can do...

I still reckon that if all else fails you should still be able to use the method I've described above. Having said that, it would seem a bit of a waste of the functions of the 1212M so you are still better getting to grips with that if you can.


Good luck

andy
 
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