acoustic guitar/vocals live recording advice

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i'm going to be recording about 6 or 7 songs tomorrow, all live. its just a gift for somebody so it doesn't necessarily have to be amazing. actually, i'm putting it onto a cassette tape and going all out for the packaging, but i still want it to sound as good as possible. the room i'm doing it in is almost completely dead so it should come out sounding pretty intimate. the style is sort of indie rockish and dynamic, it can go from fingerpicking to strumming as loud as i possibly can and yelling. i want to record live because it just ends up sounding loose when i record guitar and vocals seperately.
previously i've recorded the guitar with an x/y setup- a shure bg5.0 (this was a handmedown but looks like the older brother of a beta 87?) pointed at the bridge, and a studio projects b1 pointed at the 12th fret. hard panned. sounded good. but when i sing it sounds a bit far off and the stereo sound annoys me a bit. could i maybe do an x/y setup with another mic out in the room? or maybe even one real close to my mouth? heres what i have for mics--

studio projects b1 - LDC, you know it. real hyped high end. i like it on my voice.
mxl 990 / 991 - MDC, closest thing i have to a pair of mics that sound similar. also very hyped.
shure bg5.0 - like i said before, looks like an older beta 87. not hyped at all but needs a lot of gain which i can't say i have too much of without getting noisey.
some dynamics like 57s and such that i don't like the sound of at all on acoustics or vocals.

are there any techniques you guys have done that sounded good doing a stereo guitar setup while the guitarist is singing? theres gonna be a ton of bleed since the guitar and vocals are usually at the same level so i don't really know if i should go overboard with mics.
 
I gave up trying to control the bleed. If this is for a quick and dirty recording, just stick your best LDC (or SDC, it might actually sound better since they have better off-axis response) in front of the singer/guitarist. Find a good balance between the voice and guitar. Voila! Instant folk/singer-songwriter track! Alot of the stuff on my website was recorded with just one mic like this. Check out "The Grocer's Broom" "Che Guevara T-Shirt" and "Shades of Gray" for some examples at http://www.evangordon.com/sounds.php
 
well i ended up using the pair of MXLs pointed at the guitar in sort of an x/y setup and the b1 pointed at my mouth. no phase issues i can hear and its not too bad of a sound. i really don't like the sound of the acoustic guitar, the mxl mics, or the b1 on my voice.. but i'll live with it.
 
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