Acoustic Guitar Dilemma?

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Okay , I have an Ibanez acoustic electric and ive had it for maybe five years. Ive always been puzzled as to why theres no strap holder towards my neck on the guitar. Theres one for the strap at the base of the body but nothing on the other end. I dont wanna drill a whole in my acoustic..i'll just ruin it. Any way that i can get a strap stub holder thingy on without hurting my guitar?
 
Anything you put will require a modification i.e. a hole being drilled in the heel of the neck. Just get one of the straps made for acoustics that tie around the headstock, behind the nut. Not as convenient as having two strap buttons but better than drilling holes you don't want.
 
That could put strain on the neck. If you can't use a drill, take it to a shop and they will mount one for you.

One thing I don't recommend is driving a bunch of nails into the neck with a nail gun.
 
If your guitar doesn't have a cutaway body then you would probably never be bothered by drilling a hole and adding a strap button.

My Takamine is a cutaway body style and I still drilled a hole to add a strap button just because I don't like the feel of a strap behind the nut. Yeah, sometimes if I'm playing a lead up high on the neck, it bothers me a little... but that's a rare event and a sacrafice I was willing to make for the cormfort of using a strap.

Regardless, drilling a hole for a strap button won't "ruin" or "hurt" your guitar. Maybe if it was some historic Martin from 1940 or something, I would think twice about doing any drilling... but it's not so I wouldn't worry about it.
 
Buy a strap button.........drill a 3/32 hole in the heel of the neck....screw in the strap button....go play!!!!!!
 
mshilarious said:
One thing I don't recommend is driving a bunch of nails into the neck with a nail gun.

that was my first approach , i just tried it after i posted the thread. now i have alot of nails to put my strap on , its working awesome! :rolleyes:

But on a more serious note , Im going to take that shop suggestion into consideration. Im not in dire need to play my guitar standing up but i figured id ask to get it off my shoulder if there comes a time when i do need to play a show standing up.

I still wonder why they do that ... why not put two on there if youre gonna have one .. go figure.oh well


Thanks alot guys.
 
Erockrazor said:
I still wonder why they do that ... why not put two on there if youre gonna have one .. go figure.oh well


Thanks alot guys.

Wild speculation on my part, but I think it's a holdover from violin makers. Violins have a single button to hold the tailpiece, maybe guitars did at one point too :confused:
 
Frets.com has some help.

My recommendation is to install the strap button on the heel of the guitar, so the button points mosty at the floor, instead of pointing at your belly or toward the headstock. If you install it pointing toward your belly, the "button hole" on the strap pulls directly against the button. If you install it pointing to the headstock, it might be in the way when you are playing on the 12th fret or so. When you install it pointing mostly pointing to the floor, the strap wraps around the heel, and the button hole pulls against the post instead of the button. (Look at this site: second page, first picture up is what I am talking about. http://www.frets.com/FRETSPages/Musician/GenSetup/StrapButton/strapbutton1.html)

I have three guitars, one each way. The only time I've had a strap pull off, it was on the "point at your belly" strap button. The "point-to-the-floor" method is most secure. Two guitars came without a front strap button. With my accoustics, I couldn't take a Black and Decker to a new guitar, so I had the repair shop do it. I don't remember how much--not even $20. At least some guitars have dowels in the heel to help keep the neck and body attached. I have no idea where they are, but it is conceivable that the screw that fastens the strap button would go through one of the dowels. (I think both dovetail joints and bolts are more common than dowels, though.)

When I go to open mics, the straps on almost all of the accoustics other performers have are attached at the headstock. Before my strap button was intstalled, I used a boot lace to tie the strap thru the tuning pegs. The disadvantage of tying to the headstock is that the guitar sort of pulls to the right (the body wants to move toward your right hip), but that is not a big deal. Also, if you tie it on too close to the nut, the strap sometimes will hit the back of your thumb when you are fingering in first position.
 
Erockrazor said:
I still wonder why they do that ... .

Some guitars area weighted really weird (heavy head), so that the standard strap arangement would leave you with the guitar head slip-sliding away towards the floor. Depending on your playing technique, this may not matter, but it is kind of annoying to have to worry about holding the neck in the right place AND fretting correctly. Don't know if this applies to your guitar or not, but that might be one benefit of the behind-the-nut strap - holding the guitar steady in the right position.
 
mshilarious said:
Wild speculation on my part, but I think it's a holdover from violin makers. Violins have a single button to hold the tailpiece, maybe guitars did at one point too :confused:
Good speculation...

Another thought... if it's an acoustic/electric then that strap button on the end is just as much of a 1/4" jack as it is a strap button. So it ends up being kind of convenient to design it as a dual function part.
 
jpw23 said:
Buy a strap button.........drill a 3/32 hole in the heel of the neck....screw in the strap button....go play!!!!!!


On most necks a 7/64ths hole works better. On maple necks, a 3/32nds hole will just break the screw about 50% of the time.

It's not that hard to do, but if you are not comfortable doing it yourself, take it to a decent repair shop. They probably won't charge you much (I charge $10 on most guitars, which is less than my shops minimum labor charge - I charge more to change strings).

Oh yeah, and always use one of the felt washers with your strap button. It will protect the finish and help to keep your strap buttom from coming loose.

And never put it in the back side of the heal on a guitar with a bolt on neck, as you can crack the heal of the neck in two.

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Erockrazor said:
I still wonder why they do that ... why not put two on there if youre gonna have one .. go figure.oh well



Some guys don't like having a strap button on the heal, but that is the best place for most people.

As for the one on the butt end of the guitar, We need a hole there anyway so that we can hang the guitar while finishing it. The large end pin is more about tradition, but it started because of the need to hang it while finishing.


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