a years worth of recording... just... vanished...

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kidkage

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Tascam Dp-008
I hope I accidentally deleted something myself or that it was just a corrupt memory card...
It shut itself odd earlier during drum tracking and delted other tracks on that song..
now i went to go mix another song... and its just GONE
and other tracks from other songs seemed to have popped up on songs i dont remember recording them in.

And I was planning on finishing up tomorrow and launching my website and tons of other stuff in two weeks...
AND ITS JUST GONE

I honestly feel like my stomach vanished along with those recordings. im shaking. its surreal.
 
damn,,, you know i've had a few digital crashes and realized how easily things could just disappear if the HD dies.

good luck finding the work!
 
Man that sucks. I've had a drive fail and now I'm a backup nazi.
 
Backup, then backup again. Oh, and if you have a spare moment, back everything up. If my HD crashes, I have all my tracks saved on a USB flash drive. Even if you forget to back up say that third guitar track or harmony vocals, you should have at least the meat and potatoes of your song(s) saved, which is better than nothing. Whatever works. You have a USB port, so that should do just fine.
There may be some type of data recovery software that could bail you out. I have no idea, I am just throwing ideas out there.
 
Keep your USB flash drive away from strong magnets, ranjam. They not only lose all their info, they are toast after that- can not be formatted, or anything.

Trust me on this one.
 
It seems this machine records to an SD card that has a FAT filesystem on it. That means that in principle it should not be terribly hard to take the card and read its contents on a PC. Use the USB connection if you don't want to or can't take the card out of the machine, or have no way to read it directly from the PC (using a card reader).

In any case, if anything is wrong with the card, your PC should complain about it. With any luck you'll be able to see if the data is still there or not.

The only way the data on the card could be wiped out by design, is if you format the card. So whatever you do, don't do that. (Of course, a freakish bug or hardware failure could accomplish the same. You really, really should make backups!)

Refer to the manual for more information and ask some techy type to help you if all this sounds intimidating. Good luck!
 
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Not backing up your work is like leaving your door open all night long with your stereo and TV in plain sight.

NO storage system is immune from losing data. Period.
 
I've never had a failure like that Kid <knock on computer screen>
Just makes me think though what if that were to happen. :(
 
Well, if it makes you fell any better, when Steely Dan were recording the Gaucho album,......

The first track completed for the album was "The Second Arrangement." The song was a favorite of producer Gary Katz and engineer Roger Nichols.[28] In late December 1979, after weeks of working on a particular recording of the track, approximately 3/4 of the song was accidentally erased by an assistant engineer who had been asked by Katz to ready the track for listening.[28] It was Nichols who broke the bad news about the assistant's mistake to the band;[28] Fagen walked out of the studio without saying a word when he was told what the assistant had done to the recording of the song.[28] Attempting to re-record "The Second Arrangement" proved to be too discouraging, and the song was eventually abandoned.[28] However, a handful of demo and outtake recordings of the song exist in bootleg form.[29]

:(
 
Any data of any value should always be backed up. Offsite backup is best (in case of fire, flood, theft, whatever) but isn't usually practical for most home users. But a small NAS, or external hard drive, is not at all expensive these days. Every computer in my house backs up data every night automatically, so I don't have to worry about it. And it saved me just last month when the primary hard drive in my home office computer died. My studio computer has never lost a drive, but it gets backed up, because drive failure is always just a matter of time.

It's too late (this time) for kidkage, but I hope everybody else who doesn't already do regular backups will learn from his disaster: back up your data! Not only recorded tracks, but personal photos, videos, financial records, whatever you put on your computer. If you don't, you will one day be very, very sorry.
 
Back up buffoonery !

DrCobweb said:
Any data of any value should always be backed up.

It's too late (this time) for kidkage, but I hope everybody else who doesn't already do regular backups will learn from his disaster: back up your data! Not only recorded tracks, but personal photos, videos, financial records, whatever you put on your computer. If you don't, you will one day be very, very sorry.
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Well, Kidcage, I can understand you feeling gutted so let me try and cheer you up with a tale of back up buffoonery.
I back up my songs that I record on my DAW. I back them up onto a CDRW via a SCSI drive. My process is, back up the stuff, reload it onto my DAW {a standalone Akai DPS12i}, listen to the reload to make sure all the tracks are there, then delete both the original song and the reload from the hard drive, thereby giving me more disc space for the next lot of recording. Been doing this since I got the Akai so it's habit.
So there's this track I was working on, really complicated and involved. It was in three sections and each section had a different drummer on it {one of whom was a friend that's a session drummer from Zambia, since returned there}, I had a sax and clarinet part, great backing vocals and screams from two sets of friends, I'd done the bass part {with the second drummer}. It took, over a 15 month period, loads of organizing and different sections were recorded out of sequence so I had to put it all together (learned loads about editing in the process) but by the tail end of last year all that needed to be added was a rap and some vocals in the mid section plus some percussion in sections 1 and 3. Also bear in mind that the genesis of this song occurred ten years previously.
So at it's advanced stage, it's sounding good and I'm looking forward to finishing it off and one day after work, there I am backing up. Reloaded the back up to make sure it had backed up then as usual deleted it from the Akai and started backing up the next song. It was while I was reloading the next song after back up that I noticed that the CDRW I was reloading had the title of my previous song, the 3 section one, written on it ! I had forgotten to take out the disc and put in the new one ! And I'd overwritten the back up ! And deleted the song from my DAW !
AAAAARRRGGGGHHHH !!!
I just sat there with my head in my hands :D and my older son came up and said "Dad, are you alright ?". I was speechless. All that work for nothing ! And one of the drummers had left the country !
I did loads of research on disc data recovery and a friend that works in computers said he'd try to recover the stuff but it was all to no avail. It couldn't be done.
Oh well. I've since redone it, it's nowhere near as good in my opinion.
Yes, always back up your work, mutter, grumble.........
 
damn.... that sucks. I guess I really should be backing my stuff up more eh?
 
grimtraveller said:
... there I am backing up. Reloaded the back up to make sure it had backed up then as usual deleted it from the Akai and started backing up the next song. It was while I was reloading the next song after back up that I noticed that the CDRW I was reloading had the title of my previous song, the 3 section one, written on it !
..Yes, always back up your work, mutter, grumble.........
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Umm, excuse me... :eek:

That's not a back up

You not done
You just moving it around

Now go do your 2nd copies

:o
 
A funny

"This elevator going down?
"Em not now, but eventually for sure. :)"

"... I wish you wouldn't put it like that
 
anyone that's been recording digitally for any amount of time has a tale of data loss & woe. I have to say though, since OSX Leopard introduced Time Machine, multiple backups couldn't be easier.
1) Plug in cheap USB drive,
2) when OSX asks if i want to use it as a Time Machine backup drive, Click Yes.
3) Never think about data loss again.

It's been great.
 
Nothing is ever permanently "deleted," it is just re-written so that your operating system can't see it. Unless the storage medium is physically damaged, you can get it back. There are companies that will do it (for a fee), and there are also programs that you can purchase to do it. It's up to you how much it's worth, but it definitely is possible to get your data back.
 
jab2980 said:
Nothing is ever permanently "deleted," it is just re-written so that your operating system can't see it. Unless the storage medium is physically damaged, you can get it back. There are companies that will do it (for a fee), and there are also programs that you can purchase to do it. It's up to you how much it's worth, but it definitely is possible to get your data back.
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This is not accurate. To say that "nothing is ever permanently deleted" is just not true. When a file is flagged as deleted, the space it occupied becomes available for immediate use; anything could have overwritten all or part of the content. The operating system can certainly "see" the space, and is aware that the original file has been deleted, so it will use that space. The storage medium does not have to be damaged; the space is simply re-used. And for most cases, overwriting even part of a file is enough to make it useless.

It is true that under ideal circumstances a deleted file can be recovered, if nothing else has overwritten it. But it is far from guaranteed, particularly if any amount of time has passed since it was deleted. Disk space is being grabbed and used all the time; once a day or two has gone by, the chance of recovering the deleted file completely intact is very small. It's just not true that it is "definitely possible to get your data back."
 
Not sure if this applies but I have managed to recover data that I thought was completely erased from my hard drive. It was a while ago and it was a free program I came across on a random search so I'm not sure which one but I think it was NTFS Undelete or something similar.

Anyway, hope something works out for ya!
 
DrCobweb said:
Any data of any value should always be backed up. Offsite backup is best (in case of fire, flood, theft, whatever) but isn't usually practical for most home users. But a small NAS, or external hard drive, is not at all expensive these days. Every computer in my house backs up data every night automatically, so I don't have to worry about it. And it saved me just last month when the primary hard drive in my home office computer died. My studio computer has never lost a drive, but it gets backed up, because drive failure is always just a matter of time.

It's too late (this time) for kidkage, but I hope everybody else who doesn't already do regular backups will learn from his disaster: back up your data! Not only recorded tracks, but personal photos, videos, financial records, whatever you put on your computer. If you don't, you will one day be very, very sorry.
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Not only do I back up to an external Hard Drive, but I back up that entire drive to DVD DL Discs as well. Hard drives (whether internal or external) will crash. I learned that when I was using three (3) drives, and the main backup drive itself crashed. So instead, I began to backup everything from both drives to discs as of a year ago, and every once in a while, I'll reload those discs to make sure they all work and were burned properly aside from doing the data verification after its done burning. I know this process might take long, and involves spending some extra cash on discs, but at least I work with total peace-of-mind. And I'll sometimes make a copy of those discs, and keep those second copies in my girlfriends house.
 
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