wow, great comments..... i'm really appreciating it......
volthouse
yeah, when i remixed this, i had to bounce the vocals all at once to one stereo pair, and i just didn't catch that they were, as you described, kinda stacked, til i was already doing the last mix ( had to bounce all the basic music tracks to a pair, the backup and solo guitars to a pair, the vocals to a pair, then blend those 3 pairs down to one final pair.....) (ah, the joys of 8 tracks.......)
man, it'd be so easy to mix these things right without submixes! LOL
piltdownman
this mix used a different overall mix, and a different technique for "mastering" (sic) the final mix...... it must be a combination of the 4 band eq'ing and the 3 band compressing, something i did different than the first.....
nothing was really done to the drums, 'cept some minor eq'ing at the track level. but that must have been enough to make a difference......
Toki987
thanks for checking it out!
Kelly5150
those drums, are just a 'kit #5' off of my zoom123.........
it only has a stereo out, so the kit pieces are set, and the panning is set.......
in fact, that snare is just the way it sounds out of the box..... i can't really do anything to them, except add a little 3 bands of parametric eq...... very limited in the drum department.......
The Ghost of FM
drum machine...... man, i wished i had real drums to work with...... the drum machine gets the point across, but it's definitely not my choice..... just all i got for now.......thanks for the compliments.....
i'm listening to tubular bells now..........
participant
only 1.3k?
damn!
LOL
that snare, it does have a funny room reverb on it....... i wished i could edit that snare and keep the kick and toms....... when you select a kit on that zoom123 machine, it's what it is........ take or leave..... i have 2 other kits that i like to use, but they all had higher snare tones, and didn't fit with this tune......
there's 80 kits on there, and i've only found 3 that i like!
maybe, in the future, i'll get a pc based sequencer, and start writing drum patterns the way i really hear em in my head... using samples and build a kit from scratch.... play with the velocities and swings......... yeah........ drool.........mmmmmmm.........reason..................
freshears
glad you checked out the "take it all" tune.......
that one was done with real miced guitars, no pod.......
you know, i had no inkling of an idea about YES when i recorded that..... and everyone says that about it.........??!!
that's cool, i dig yes.........dial up is frustrating..... thanks for hanging in there.....
if you're interested, i'll sell you a full length cd, cheap!
just the cost of a disc and postage........ then, no more dial-up!!
joro
you guys are cracking me up.... i think i did post "take it all" here a ways back, when i did it..... maybe, last winter? can't remember... anyway, thanks for the compliments.........
thief......... the bass........ what kind of system are listening on? is it small or big? if i'm light in the bass through something like pc speakers, maybe i can learn where those frequencies are, and figure out how to punch them out a little more for that........ on the big speakers i have at home, the bass seems almost a little too much.........
Guernica
glad you liked this new one.....and you are correct, about the panning of the drums... again, it's the machine... those pan settings are set internally, and i have no control over them.....
my guess is, when they engineered that kit sound, they decided to pan them to give them an obvious stereo effect, which is not really my choice of panning..... i'd love to get a real sequencer and use sample..... one day...... when my ship comes in.......
yes, i posted this at the planet.
it is recorded on an 8 track roland vs880ex.
that's the problem i've got now, i'm doing an average of 16 tracks, can only bounce from 6 down to 2, and i'm locking myself into submixes.....
i'm becoming the master of submixes, and that's not really what i want to get good at! LOL
skids
i thought you said this made you want to "throw up"!
LMAO...................

glad you liked it.....
and the reason those vocals sound so live, is because where i'm tracking them, the room has hard wood floors, and a flat ceiling with no soundproofing........ and i'm using a audiotecnica 4033 (medium sized condenser) mic, and so i'm getting a whole lot of room effect...... there's a hard slapback that's in the basic track from the room, and i didn't add any effect to the lead vox at all ! i did double track the lead vocal, mix it in lower, and add reverb to that one, and that probably actually makes it sound even more live...... great ear there skids!
thanks for listening.