A jazzy (sorta) song.

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It wouldn't download for me but it played hi-fi.

I wouldn't say jazz as much the softer side of Pink Floyd. Except for the Wes Montgomery licks thrown in for lead. OK, that's jazz.

I've played it over and over (Marilyn wouldn't let me go shut off the looping Winamp player) and I can't find anything to nitpick.

Great job.
 
Downloaded for me with no problems.

Nice mix. I would certainly peg it as blues rather than jazz.

Everything is clean, nice feel. Good job overall. What are you recording with - software, mics, etc.? Seems to have a much more professional sound than what I'm getting.
 
nice smooth stuff. Blues=verse, jazzy=chorus. I wanna rip off in F# pentatonic with a passion. A more "intimate" vocal sound might help....like some proximity effect....lip smacking, breathing sounds. ..something that sounds really "up close"....otherwise I hear a vocal belting it out an octave higher but placed *back* in the mix with some more reverb. Maybe a little intonation problem with the singing too. Overall a 9 out of a 10. Good job.
 
Same as doc, it sent me to some listening room and a band called "Soul Miner's Daughter". (Is that you dressed up in drag, EM? HMMMMMMMM?)

Tried listening to it hifi, but it kept cutting off after about 14 seconds.

mutt
 
1:31 ROCKS. I also like the "mirrored" vocal line on guitar following this bridge. And the tone you get around 1:31 on the "hits" really works well.

@1:59, I'd really emphasize the "rick-rick" syncopated guitar hits; make them a foreground event. And sometimes I strain to hear your voice, which I feel is sometimes too low in level.

A highlight instrument that I think would work really well: Triangle (or hotel bell, maybe a wine glass "ting"). Maybe at various points in the song right before a change, etc. No more than a total of 5 "tings," or it'd lose it's character.

Don't listen to me. I think like a producer.

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Very nice job Emeric.... pretty smooth - great dynamics. Mikey likes it! Well-placed vocal in the mix - overall very balanced - everything's where it should be....

2 quibbles (and they are quibbles!) - 1) the cymbals sound a slightly brittle and thin, although the hi-hat is good. Mic or mic placement maybe? You also had a bit of phase flanging - not everywhere, just before the bridge section - maybe that's part of it. 2) the rhythm guitar needs a bit more dimension around it - it sounds slightly flat, like it was recorded direct but it screams for some room around it!

Both of my quibbles could be chocked-up to personal taste as well, so I'm not sure how much stock you want to put in them!

Excellent job dude...

Bruce
 
drstawl: Yeah, Jazz probably isn't the best description I suppose. I shouldn't have listed it as that genre on lycos, no doubt piss some jazz purists off. Thanks for checking it out.

dachay2tnr: Blues perhaps would be a better category. Nothing too exciting on the equipment side. Modified Rode NT-1 (i.e. dropped), Delta 1010, Nuendo, Mackie, Art tube pre. Fender Tele, Takamine in parts. I thought your stuff sounds great dachay2ntr, very clean and clear.

mixmkr: Ok, getting closer now, maybe I'll call it Jazzy Blues. Yes, I could sing closer to the mic, I was quite close with the intent of getting some proximity effect - maybe not close enough. The odd vocals parts are pitch challenged for sure, the harmonies at the end are out a bit. Thanks for listening.

mutt: Yep that's me in drag, another band I play with odd days. I don't know why it doesn't download for you. I just tried to d/l it myself but it wouldn't work either. I think lycos is going down the tube. I guess I'll move to nowhereradio and javamusic.com, try here maybe:

http://www.javamusic.com/emeric

Kelly: The vocals are inconsistent in parts, I'll try and fix that. Not sure about the wine glass 'ting'. :) I have a glockenspeil, what do you think?

Bruce: They are a little thin sounding, I think it's mostly a placement problem, combined with the way I hit them (not being a drummer). Agree about the guitar as well, it's run through a pod into an ART tube MP. I intend to redo that track, probably the whole song with a better drummer - more jazz ghosty stuff which I can't do. Thanks for listening to it.
 
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Thanks for the vote of confidence, Emeric. Your equipment is similar to mine - at least the Delta 1010 and the Mackie. I'm using Sonar for software. Maybe it's the Rode. We're still using Shure 57's and 58's. I haven't dropped them yet, though. Maybe I need to try that. :)
 
Hey Em

I finally got it! Good stuff!! I think I agree with Kelly about the triangle but I would only do it around 2:15 where you go into the real quiet part. Maybe on the downbeat of every other measure through that little part. Definitely bring up the vocal in the middle where the guitar is hiding it. Love the song. Very nice feel.

mutt
 
Yes, very very nice. Evocative.

I don't mean to be mean, but I think the genre is.....heaven forbid.........pop

I also think the vocals need to come up, perhaps via more force from the vocalist rather than crowding the mic (you already sound pretty close) or turning up the volume.
 
Wow... Even me like it.

I would also give it a more intimate vocal sound. Don't know how to do it really. (If you want an example, Rick Wright's solo CD 'Broken China' has Sinead O'Conner singing 2 songs. Put your cans on and it feels as if she's spitting in your ears. To contrasting with Rick's voice however, who probably is not good enough to use that same trick on...)

And I also agree with Bruce on the guitar sound. Especially around 2:20 it could use something. Something spacy behind it to give it some air, maybe with a slow phasing or phlanging thingy to keep it moving. But very much on the background. The thing that is there but nobody really knows...

But I really liked it. And I'm one of those nitpickers too. But there's nothing jazzy in it. Maybe the lead guitarsound. But that's about it.

By the way, you have a glockenspîel??? That is cool. Vibraphones are the coolest... But the glockenspiel would be a good idea for this one. Just 1 or 2 pings in the whole song. I like the idea. But don't get it on the foreground. Offcourse.
 
Very nice tune. Great atmosphere. I thought the drums were great. How did you record them?

A few negatives: A couple of bad notes in the vocal, but a real nice mood overall. Going into the bridge was a bit strange, but maybe I need to get used to it. Also, I was sort of expecting it to go back to the top with singing after the break part.

Really nice. Did you play this straight through (that is, no punches and stuff)? And did you not use a click? It has a nice loose feel. Lastly, Nuendo sounds pretty darn good. Are you happy with it?

Macle
 
I'd be the last one here to tell ya what it needed, since my stuff sux the big one. It really is a nice track Emeric, first impression you sounded a little..Todd Rundgren. There is some things going on in this that has some "jazz" feeling to it, guitars, bass, and drums at times seem to go in that direction...nice playing by the way on all three! Damn if I could play drums I'd tell some people to fuck off:D. Anyway I like the song, and the recording was top notch all the way I thought. Had to listen to hi-fi, still directing me to that other page to d/l, but it still sounded very good. Jazz/Pop.
 
mutt: (how's Shania?) Not sure about the triangle thing, but always into trying things, thanks for listening.

LI Slim: Pop, Pop???? oh no... Your probably right. Pop it is. Don't know why I called it Jazzy, since everyone in this thread disagrees.... I'll try and get the vocals up in the parts where they are buried.

Roel: Not familiar with that artist. Sinead yes, not Rick fellow. Yeah, I have a glockenspeil, Andy (drummer) 'borrowed' it from the highschool band years ago...

Macle: Yes, I'm good at messing up vocals. This one is in a lower range than I'm used to, although I make similiar mistakes in other ranges.. The drums are straight through. Vocals are 2 punches, Bass, 2 punches, guitars straight through. Thanks for listening to it. Oh yeah, Nuendo. It's a decent program, not much different than Cubase really, except the price. It has better editing features than the 3.7 version of Cubase I use to use. The automation is better. The dithering aspects are better than 3.7, I think Cubase V5 addresses this.

Click track, yes I did use one. The big problem I had was that I could not for the life of me, create a swing click in fruity loops, so I just played over a straight click (this probably sounds odd). But, fighting with the click, and my drumming.. anyway. It's almost in time. When I redo the drums with a drummer hopefully it will be better.

David: Todd Rundgren.. hmmm. I should pick up a few albums of his I've heard that before. Jazz/Pop, never ending categories here. And, your stuff does NOT suck. Far from it, clean clear recordings from what I've listened to so far.

Thanks for the feedback everyone.
 
Emeric said:

Macle: Yes, I'm good at messing up vocals. This one is in a lower range than I'm used to, although I make similiar mistakes in other ranges.. The drums are straight through. Vocals are 2 punches, Bass, 2 punches, guitars straight through. Thanks for listening to it. Oh yeah, Nuendo. It's a decent program, not much different than Cubase really, except the price. It has better editing features than the 3.7 version of Cubase I use to use. The automation is better. The dithering aspects are better than 3.7, I think Cubase V5 addresses this.

Click track, yes I did use one. The big problem I had was that I could not for the life of me, create a swing click in fruity loops, so I just played over a straight click (this probably sounds odd). But, fighting with the click, and my drumming.. anyway. It's almost in time. When I redo the drums with a drummer hopefully it will be better.
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I don't think the vocals or drums are messed up at all! I think they're really good. Especially if you are doing them mainly straight through. (If it were up to me, I would just fix those couple of notes, and leave the drums as they are). And I thought the feel was really good, that's why I was thinking that maybe you didn't use a click or do many punches, cuz sometimes those things suck the life out of stuff.

Great job,
Macle
 
dammit

I want to download this so bad! But I'm on the road in Atlanta ... and it would take over an hour to d/l :(
I will for sure listen when I get back home ... something else to look forward to!
 
Sweet, mellow song. Man... I just could hear a ripping solo - trumpet or sax, maybe - floating out of that, though.. sort of a longing, break-your-heart solo, floating up... man.

Anyways, as it stands, a seriously good track. Beautifully done. Definitely, it is going in my listening rotation.
 
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