15 year old engineer songs

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Age really has nothing to do with talent.

IMO, You either have a high caliber of talent in music, or you don't, and Jimmy has it, and he's only 15.

On the other hand, F/I, I'm 41, and I still can't write and produce songs at Jimmy's level. My hat's off to him.

Being young is a great advantage in the music business today, when energy is high, and the effort you can put into your project and promoting yourself is at it's greatest potential.

I'll go out on a limb here, and say that IMO, older [non-teen/20's] independent artists will almost never 'break' in the 'real' [commercial] music business, but younger artists will, and their chances of that happening is much greater than that of older artists.

Anyway, [IMO], being young is a large part of what it's all about in the commercial music business today. Practically everyone who's big in music 'made it' big by their 20's. The majority of people I see on VH1 and MTV are young. The music business is an industry, and it needs new product every year.

I'll go out on a limb again, and say that IMO, the majority of record buyers are people in their teens and 20's, and therefore, the 'industry' needs a constant supply of 'product' that would appeal to 18-20 year olds, i.e., young talent.

In your teens or 20's, your music career has it's most forward looking potential, and it's up to your effort to make it happen, whatever that means, or ends up being.

Jimmy, your composition and recording of "Nothing to Say" are about as commercial as anything else I've heard on MTV or VH1, or other radio or internet venues. I'll listen to some of the other cuts later.

Have fun, and good luck with music.
 
The snare on "I found love" needs a reverb tail to my ears... s'all I got ,

JAKE (scratches his head)
 
The third song seems way too compressed or overdriven probably in mastering. Singing is out of key in a couple places. Otherwise good

JAKE
 
Hey... I'm gonna try to reply to everyone who asked fer one...

First, thanks alot to Zeke and Reel Person for y'alls encouragement and input...

Poo- I'm thinking more towards production/arranging/mixing work than engineering, but who knows what'll come up between here and "then"

Also, just to remind ya again... Colourblind did all the writing, arranging and performing of the first 3 songs there.

Jake- on your post about "the third song" being overdriven or something like that... in what segments were you talkin' about? On the vocals being out of tune... we tried to overdub, but my house has some cruddy acoustics, so that didn't go over too well... and we just kept the (not good, but better sounding) original on that track.

Zeke - The bass was a Cort fretless thru the Manley pre using the Pultec EQ (sounds great on... ANYTHING, but esp. the bass in this case)
This was recorded at the drummer and bassist's house... about 7 foot tall ceiling... basically a square room... (not good right?)

yiordanaki - you mentioned that a different bass tone would sound better.. since the bass riff is close to the focus of the song... would you have any recommendations on how that could be "smoother" but still up front?

SOME MORE QUESTIONS for you guys... any ideas on what rates would be reasonable to charge for this type of work?

Also... on the song "Fall Away", listen to the feedback sections (in the verse and pre-bridge) and tell me how you think those could be improved, as well the pre-bridge "break-up" distortion deal. Thanks alot!! ~jim
 
The whole thing seemed crunchy to me...the vox are good enough ...are you really 15?

I don't believe, but I want to.

JAKE
 
Hey jake... check out the rest of the site... alot of the pics have me in them somewhere... thanks for the fall away comments
 
production and engineering, this may sound stupid but could you outline the differences, im thinking of doing it for a career, so i should probably know exactly what i want to do.
engineering is more mastering and that sort of thing right?
and production is tracking, mixing, etc...?

so those mixerman tales, he is into production?
 
Just listening to "Nothing to Say"

First thing I noticed were the out of tune notes on the fretless bass in the intro, I would have tried a few more takes on that. Weakest part overall is the drum timing, could be a bit tighter. Everything now is quantized midi, you notice timing being out just a little. Eq and mix pretty good, a few bum notes on the vocals too... Don't really like that dissonant chorus. Needs to be redone by a grunge band, with those wall of grunge guitars on the chorus. Not really a pleasant song, feeling wise.

...but that's just my opinion ;- )
 
Thanks, schneker for the comments...

Hey... a new song up for reviews (PLEASE) is "Jetta, by Paul Ferrer" towards the bottom... oddly enough there are two songs named Jetta on the site, but this one isn't a PRO recorded one...

ambi- I BELIEVE the difference between production and engineering is that the producer/production team pretty much controls the creative flow of the tune as it is recorded (that is, arranging what goes where, when, etc.) and the engineer basically gets the sounds (picking mics, pres, effects eventually) and does all the dirty work setting up the session. This is how I understand it... but if anyone else knows any better, please let me know! thanks ~jim
 
Hey... please check these out when ya get a chance and let me know how you think they could be better... you guys rock.. have a good one ~jim
 
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