10,000RPM IDE HD's

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Welp, they're finally out...but spendy and limited in size.

I'm not yet convinced that there will be any benefit to the average DAW users. 32 24/96 tracks only requires ~9MB/s sustained transfer, which is half of what even the crappiest 7200RPM drives are capable of.

Doing things like batch conversion may prove faster.

People working with digital video and graphics processing will probably be very happy though...although I think the largest I've seen is only 36GB.

Slackmaster 2000
 
Yup. Not exactly something that you can just plug into your existing system, although the newer intel chipsets have SATA standard I believe. Also there are adapters such that you could use a SATA drive on your existing ATA controller. Don't know how much they cost or how effective they are. I think there's an article on tom's about the if you do a search.

Anyways, point being - I'm not sure if it's worth the cost when it comes to audio. One of the big misconceptions by DAW builders is that the hard drive is a bottleneck...although that really hasn't been the case since the 5400/4800 days (especially with hardware that could only PIO).

Slackmaster 2000
 
So far the biggest advantage I see to SATA in a DAW is the noise. SATA drives are extremely quiet, especially the Seagates.

It's still a relatively new interface though, and LVD SCSI is still the speed king. EIDE/ATA is the best bang per buck, but the 1 year warranties are a bit troubling for those of us that like to keep our hardware for a while.
 
M.Brane said:
SATA drives are extremely quiet, especially the Seagates.
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That, of course, has nothing to do with the interface but with the overall design of the hard drive. My parallel ATA Seagate is also extremely quiet. It's just the interface that's different.

I don't know how it is in the US but in Europe, Seagate (and probably the other hard drive manufacturers as well) give 2 years of warranty on their hard drives to consumers/end users. I think it has something to do with european rules that say that anything should have at least 2 years warranty.
The invoice of the Seagate that I bought 2 weeks ago also says so. If you want 3 years of warranty, go for the drives with 8MB cache.
 
I was looking at hard drives just the other day on pricewatch and I found that the "smaller" sized SCSI hard drives really aren't all that expensive anymore. I saw 50GB SCSI 7200rpm drives for under $100. The one I saw that really caught my eye was a seagate cheetah 10,000rpm 36.9GB for $162. That thing would fly and 36.9GB is plenty of space for me. I still haven't filled my 20GB (that was the shit back in the day when I built my comp.....way way back in the year 2000).
 
i'll have to pass on the 10k drives and wait for the solid state ram drives coming in the next year or so, "no moving parts" i'll stick with my o'l 7200 drives and forgo the experimental stage for the 10k... besides i read the speed increase is not all that... given the cpu/ram speed increases we've seen the past year or so...

dealing with cheap 1 or 2yr warranties on expensive drives is just a pain IMO...
 
If you want 3 years of warranty, go for the drives with 8MB cache.
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That's exactly why I bought 2 WD 80GB JB drives back in Jan. After the rebates they cost me $90 each. They were the only ones I could find with the 3-year warranty. Everything else was 1. They're pretty quiet too. Can barely hear 'em in there, and my Mac is pretty quiet.

Another good deal on the SCSI side is the Atlas 10K. Good performer, and reasonable price.
 
i run a half doz J series WD 7200 80g drives and must say i've put one through hell gaming on it and all in all not a seconds problem with any of the drives... yeah, 3yr warranty to boot, gotta luv that...

3 of the drives have 6-8 partitions, WD did good, to bad maxtor dropped there warranty to a year, bet there hurting :) serves them right i expect...
 
I've had something like 8 western digitals fail on me over the years. I'll never touch another one. Especially now that they've gone to plastic housing. That's just me though.

I totally agree on the flash drives...now that's something to look forward to! They already make em with capacities up to a few hundred GB...in fact I think the new Radar uses them. Expensive still. No moving parts = no noise & less chance of breakdown! Should be plenty fast too!

Spinning discs faster and faster just seems like wasted effort.

Slackmaster 2000
 
this forum keeps eating my threads and asking me to log in :( i have logged in 3 times (this session already) and it still does it, grrr...

yes i clean my cookies daily but make sure i've logged in before making a post every time, believe me, this isn't the first i've lost, and unfortunetly looks like not the last... again...

i just lost a 10 minute post write up as well...

sad, very sad... sigh"

and during the weekends i get server full quite a bit... time to upgrade or find another host...

never mind, i'm still very thankful for all the info i get here, it was, just a thought :)
 
Try lowering your security settings in IE. If you're not using IE, you might think about it. Most don't have these issues.

Wanna know a trick I used back when we were on a shitty server? I got into the habit of selecting the entire text of my post and copying right before hitting reply. That way if there was a problem I'd just have to start a new reply...no big loss.

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Slackmaster2K said:
Wanna know a trick I used back when we were on a shitty server? I got into the habit of selecting the entire text of my post and copying right before hitting reply. That way if there was a problem I'd just have to start a new reply...no big loss.
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I do that a lot. Of course I use Netscape, and I type really slow.:p

If it wasn't for the browser thing, my Mac would be 100% M$ free. Have to keep IE on here though for those sites that won't load properly with anything else.

Wonder why that is?:rolleyes:
 
Because Nutscrape won't keep up with the times because they wait for these archaic standards organizations to make their minds up. Oh, and they also refuse to fix their buggy ass javascript interpreter!!!!!!!!

;)

Slackmaster 2000
 
Slackmaster2K said:
Because Nutscrape won't keep up with the times because they wait for these archaic standards organizations to make their minds up. Oh, and they also refuse to fix their buggy ass javascript interpreter!!!!!!!!

;)

Slackmaster 2000
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Yeah, that and a lot of web designers just don't bother to make their sites compatable with Netscape because they assume that everybody uses IE anyway, right?;)
 
I tell you what, I've designed for both and IE is simply easier and more predictable. Given a choice I think most web designers would force people to use IE :)

It may be the only product they ever got right....but it took em 4 versions to get there.

Slackmaster 2000
 
i believe it's spybot doing it, it now has the Immunize feature that keeps track of certain cookies and must deleate them as soon as there installed :(...

the web, ah, luv it, or leave it...
 
Slackmaster2K

Wanna know a trick I used back when we were on a shitty server? I got into the habit of selecting the entire text of my post and copying right before hitting reply.
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heh, that should be Slickmaster :) kewl move, thanks...

yeah IE does bite but i'm a M$ zombie now and need help cause i've fallen and can't get back up :)
 
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