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One quote from a guy with an obvious (duh) bias vs. two peer reviewed publications plus eye witness accounts of the world's greatest [ever] violin pedagog. Yeah, I suppose my sources just aren't credible. Or just like take any cool horn riff and play it on a keyboard and see if it's half as...

To be clear -- You are saying that one instrument can play any given tone against an ET backing and it can sound good? Depending, obviously, on the circumstance. So what happens in your typical orchestral circumstance where there are no tempered instruments?

My perception of this thread so far: I have provided citations to several peer reviewed scientific studies that support the notion that violinists play pythagorean tuning. I have provided several specific examples of world class violinists playing other than equal tempered. I have provided a...

Sure, playing perfectly is the goal; as you say, sometimes they make "minute" changes. Sometimes they mask intonation problems with vibrato. But they don't make the 2mm+ adjustments we're talking about; it would sound bad. I've been out of town (in New Orleans, listening to some justly...

Here's my thought: tune them so they sound good.

So forget about all that technical stuff. Cite me any recording I can find on I-tunes that has Et strings or brass. In the mean time, listen to RBF.

On the wood? WTF? Give me the name of any recording of a violinist playing ET that I can verify for myself!

Dude. Listen to any RBF track with horns (I'm in the process of listening to them all!). They're not freaking ET intervals.

Listen to "The New Version of You" on RBF Monkeys for Nothing. The horns are nowhere close to ET. Play em on your piano and see. Don't work, do it?

Um, I was hoping for something written by someone besides yourself. OK. But talk to them about what they listen to. The ones I've talked to listen, (as I said) to their stand partners more than anything. Duh. First, you completely misunderstood. I'm saying that the 3mm is the difference in...

I bought a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz a long time ago, because of all the sound cards on the market, it had the best test results. You might could get one on ebay pretty cheap. Truth is, the Turtle Beach is easily not the weakest link in my chain. My $400 of mics and mixers, otoh, could easily be...

Start here: http://www.violinmasterclass.com/intonation_qt.php?video=int_def1&sctn=Definition ["This site provides information that was until now available only to those able to audition into the world's foremost violin studios, such as the classes of Dorothy DeLay, Ivan Galamian, and Carl...

I've got some 6" bookshelf speakers and an old Technics reciever. I also use some Koss headphones, and I check my mixes on some old big Pioneer speakers in my livingroom and my car. It's what I have, so it's what I use, and I'm mostly recording acoustic instruments anyway, so my "mixing" isn't...

I'll try to find it again. About three years ago I got interested in violinists and intonation, and I went out to see what I could find, and there are quite a few studies, but the one was very interesting, because they specifically wanted to see if a violinist would switch to playing 12ET with...

I've been using CE2k for multi-track recording. Mostly I record small string ensembles in stereo, with occasional overdubs. Am I missing anything with newer software like Sonar or Pro Tools?

I see I put this in the wrong forum. I'll put a post in the correct forum if you want to reply! :eek:

He used to tune three pianos. One in his home, one in my grandmother's, and one at the church. AFAIK, all three were only ever solo instruments :rolleyes: I know what you're saying about violins, and if you ask violinists, they'll pay lip service to adjusting their intonation, but according to...

I've been using CE2k for multi-track recording. Mostly I record small string ensembles in stereo, with occasional overdubs. Am I missing anything with newer software like Sonar or Pro Tools?

I agree with everything Mutley says, but I have an interesting anecdote, a personal detail, and some general soapbox! My cousin learned to tune pianos from his grandfather, who was a piano repair man. My cousin tuned the intervals by ear, so they weren't 12ET, but some kind of just system. His...

I don't know what God has to do with it, but DUH! The garage down the street repairs no Mercedes. Do you think the fact that there are no Merceded cars within 10 blocks of the shop is related to that? Like if there just aren't any around, they're not going to turn up in the shop, regardless of...