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    Geting from Mixer to Sound Card on the cheap...

    Sleeve is ground, it's ring that is return. ;) Yes, hence the short between send and return so the signal goes back into the desk. If I leave plugs half out, I just know somebody "helpful" will push them in mid-set while I'm on stage. Good idea, thanks! Yes, I'll try that and see how it sounds...
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    Geting from Mixer to Sound Card on the cheap...

    No, I KNOW why they have all that expensive equipment. Now if you want to buy it for me, then awesome! However, as I do not have that kind of money floating around, I need to do things on the cheap until such time as I can. Just as aside, even cheap consumer grade sound interfaces now beat the...
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    Geting from Mixer to Sound Card on the cheap...

    Ok, I have done some experimenting. Setting the desk up as you suggested, with the desk reading 0dB, the sound card is maxed out completely and distorting. When I lower the gain control so the meter on the desk is hitting the -12dB mark, the sound card is just touching it's 0dBFS point. I guess...
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    Geting from Mixer to Sound Card on the cheap...

    Excellent, thanks, I'll try that method, thanks. :) This is going to more an at gig recording, but at home mix down, burn to CD, etc. I'll try making up 4 plain, 4 attenuated cables (resistors are dirt cheap anyhow) then I can swap around and see what works. What a cool idea! I can see how...
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    Geting from Mixer to Sound Card on the cheap...

    I did, and it's pretty useless, hence why I was trying to determine things by other means. This doesn't, it has Main Out at +4dBU - one of the few things that the manual does say... however that's irrelevant because I want the channels separately, not the downmix. I'm not a complete idiot. I...
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    Geting from Mixer to Sound Card on the cheap...

    Ahh, that's handy to know! However, with 24bit, giving myself some headroom is probably sensible, and the noise level should easily be low enough for my needs. I didn't realise that the ESI 1010 was so similar! I'm wondering if he chips are the same and whether the drivers could be convinced o...
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    Geting from Mixer to Sound Card on the cheap...

    Hoiw would I determine I have an appropriate level signal? If I plug in my synth, and adjust the gain until the clipping LED starts to flicker on the desk, would that be right? The reason I'm assuming I need some attenuation is that everything else on the desk is +4dBU, and if I plug in a HiFi...
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    Geting from Mixer to Sound Card on the cheap...

    Ah, ok. Well I'm not expecting studio quality, because if we wanted that we'd probably go into a studio! The idea is basically to get something that sounds good, rather than something that sounds superb. The main thing really was whether it would just get the sound into the card ok, or whether I...
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    Geting from Mixer to Sound Card on the cheap...

    Why not? The mic pre on the PV14 is pretty good. Is it due to my wiring plan, or something else? We already have the PV14, and it serves us very well, hence why I was hoping to utilise what we have rather than spend out on a lot more gear, which means more stuff to carry around, more time to...
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    Geting from Mixer to Sound Card on the cheap...

    I have a Peavey PV14 mixer that we use with the band when we perform live. It's used for vocals, and to provide a bit of extra volume for the drums, and the bass to spread the sound and reduce the booming effect in some rooms. As far as I can tell, the Inserts are TRS for send/return at +4dBu...
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