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my brother started out on a pacific drumset. it was $299, i think, for a basic 5 piece kit...one of their first sets, i think. that was three or four years ago. i was impressed with their sound and the quality of construction. good beginner set. cymbals is where you're going to have to...

$650 for ride, hi-hat and crash doesn't sound like all that great of a deal. $499 is probably a reasonably good deal. i've heard the paragon cymbals. they sound nice. i think you could probably buy them individually for the same price, though. i think you could get an amazing crash for well...

what does the set consist of?

even if you get all the lugs tightened properly and somehow lock them in place so they can't come loose the head will still most likely de-tune itself as a result of stretching, pulling itself from the hoop, etc. maybe you need some timpanis.

ambassadors are not outdated. they're pretty much the standard, but i can't blame people for wanting to try something different. i have never used evans as batter heads, but i recently put evans on the bottoms of all my toms and they sound better than ever (the batter heads are currently remo...

so that's $25, minimum, per gong hit. sell it to a chinese restaurant and cut your losses.

i have two sets, one at home and one at my guitarist's house (which is my gig kit): gig setup: 13" hats (mismatched set. "new beat" on bottom. not sure what the top is, but they're both zildjian) 20" medium thin zildjian crash probably from the '70s. 22" zildjian ride (from the '70s, not sure...

those people are ALL crybabies. unless you have to take the subway there is nothing to bitch about. for gigs i take: 20' bass drum 13" tom 16 floor tom 14" snare drum (all drums in canvas padded cases) hi-hat ride 2 crash (all cymbals in one cymbal bag, which has my stick bag in the front...

well, i think that is a big deal. in order to get the hardware you want you have to order it from a catalog, or have a store special order it for you. (unless you want gibraltar, which is all most music stores in my area sell, for some reason). the gretsch shell pack says it comes with a...

what i'm asking is... do you get tom arms (i.e. tom mounting hardware...you know, the things you >>>>MUST HAVE<<<< if your goal is to set up your drumset so that it is usable) with a shell pack? EDIT: never mind...i misread an above post. ambiguous marketing terms tend to piss me off.

they DO come with tom mounting hardware, correct? seems asinine to expect a customer to have no way to set up the damn things.

the shell pack should have heads. it is my understanding that a shell pack comes with all the drums, ready to play, plus a snare stand and tom mounting hardware. perhaps you get a bass drum pedal, too. i could be wrong, though, as i have not bought a new drum set since '91. "shell pack" is a...

that stinks. i would have thought st. louis (that's where you are, right?) would have a lot of music stores that could help you out. i just remembered, if you find an old marching snare drum make sure to measure the head to see if it is a size that is still common. my grandfather gave me a...

if your question were to be answered as asked, you'd wind up with: X makes the best floor toms Y makes the best snares Z makes the best rack tom etc. will they sound good together? that's the question you need the answer to, and it's not likely that people are going to have enough experience...

i like the rail consolette, too, but mine are stripped. you might consider attaching a multi-clamp/tom mount to a cymbal stand. i've done that with one of my kits and it's more solid and easier to position than the rail consolette.

sorry for all the bonham comments. you might be able to find some definitive answers in the ludwig book "the history of ludwig drums" (i think that's the title.) you're right that you're probably better off going with the blue/olive badge drums with no reinforcement rings than the earlier...

true, but you won't get "the crunge" by bashing. bonham could be a heavy hitter, but he knew how to get HIS sound when playing with less volume.

playing with conviction is always a step in the right direction. however, i would imagine there is a danger is stressing "hitting hard" to students who have no concept of dynamics. also, there are lots of drummers who are not hard hitters, but who play very well and get great sounds from...

ok, well, i didn't know that was the criteria.

this is a misconception. bonham did not beat the crap out of his drums. he knew how to strike them and how to tune them to get a solid, powerful sound with great tone. at a certain point, hitting hard makes your drums sound weaker.