Dream about Being a Fan by Sarah and Me

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I like it! Vocals sound really good. Your voice reminds me a little of Paul Simon on this one. I'm not hearing Sarah though. If she's singing harmony you should bring her up in the mix. I like the arrangement. That descending riff is cool. You might want a more decisive change up in the bridge--add something or take something away. That guitar does more or less the same thing throughout the song. What is that woop woop sound on the backbeat in the intro and elsewhere?

There will be an MP3 of Sarah singing one of my songs up very soon. Stay tuned.
 
Woop woop? I wonder if I recorded something on accident haha

I'll give the bridge some thought. I thought it was different enough but I might have to change things up somehow.

Thanks!
 
I think I get what you mean now robus I had the one different bridge part and then a repeat of the chorus without any lyrics, I'll see about putting a pad or a solo in there. There's some background falsetto in that part, it may be what you were hearing for woop woop.
 
Vocal could be 1dB or so louder...Better yet, just notch them in (kick their sonic space out of other tracks with EQ). I say this because it sounds ok on monitors, but weak in cans. So moving other things out of the way will keep relative levels. (If you can, set it up as a side chain from the vocal so the space is there for the vocal and out when the vocal is not, that would make the mix really sweet.) :)

Otherwise very well balanced. Very fun song.

woot woot sounded more like woo hoo hoo to me...;)
 
Thanks! When you say vocal do you mean the lead or backgrounds? I think you guys are right backgrounds need to come up, I was way too conservative with them.
 
The main vocal part sounds low in headphones, but not in the monitors. Probably best to leave levels alone and just duck the couple octaves that the vocal (and harmonics) take up while the vocals are going. Will bring them forward and make a be-oo-ti-ful mix. :)

edit...and yes, the backgrounds could come up a bit as well.
 
Is there a way to side chain eq? Or are you talking automate crossfades between eq'd and not eq'd parts or something fancy like that? I'm using logic pro x if it helps.

Edit: oh maybe sidechaining a multiband compressor could do the trick too.
 
hmmm...don't know logic at all. In Reason, you'd just trigger the eq'd compressors via the vocal's control voltage out...can you do CV stuff in logic?
 
Don't think so. I think the multiband compressor might work though, I'll just attenuate a set of ranges when the vox are hitting. Some guy had a fancy trick for eq sidechaining but it involved like three auxes and doubling the tracks you want to attenuate, I hope it doesn't come to that. :o
 
Dude, what did you do to your vocals? wow. they sound great man. as soon as they kick in, i loved it. I can't hear Sarah either, as someone mentioned. I hear R.E.M. in the chorus, big time. Put that sh$t up on SC man.
 
Thanks man! Vocals are using my new RE20 and I think there's a waves doubler I put on by accident and forgot to take it off. I think I like it now I dunno. H reverb and a little eq too. I gotta fix the vocal levels and then I'll put it up. I messed with the levels after a few beers and I think I screwed them up. Still trying to get the bvox to sit right, I'm gonna try broken_h's trick.

Edit: I didn't put that link in my post, it's automatic. I'm not trying to sell anything.
 
Yes, I designed a ducking compressor that only operates on select frequencies, but it was based on a multiband compressor. So you're idea will work. :)
 
RE20...$349. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm hmmmmmmmmmm. Haven't tried a doubler before, can't say I could pick out exactly what it was doing in the track either. I didn't hear any obvious doubing effects, but I 'll have to give it another listen.
 
I like the song. Great energy and nice tune.

I liked the vocal sound.

The drums are a little mechanical.

I think you could probably turn up the bass and the kick.

Crunch guitars sound decent. They were a little bit grainy. And they had a little static-y 2.5K fizz to them.
 
Thanks triplem, I'll try to humanize the drums a bit more. I think I'll review the levels a bit while I'm at it, the guitars and lead vocal are a bit louder then the rest I think, bringing them down might solve the dum/bass balance and the background balance at the same time. For guitars, do you think less distortion overall would help? Is the fizziness like an annoying frequency or more that the tone kind loses definition?
 
Yeah it's a chunk of change but this thing it's right up my alley. Built in pop filter and shock mount apparently? Built like a tank, awesome noise rejection. While I was recording, I was holding it in one hand, singing with my lips on the grill while Sarah played guitar in the next room. It doesn't matter that I have terrible form, the thing just takes it and doesn't care about proximity or esses. My only hangup is it picks up a ground loop coming from somewhere I haven't figured out where. I just put a gate on it.

andrushkiwt said:
RE20...$349. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm hmmmmmmmmmm. Haven't tried a doubler before, can't say I could pick out exactly what it was doing in the track either. I didn't hear any obvious doubing effects, but I 'll have to give it another listen.
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easlern said:
For guitars, do you think less distortion overall would help? Is the fizziness like an annoying frequency or more that the tone kind loses definition?
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I don't think less gain/distortion is the answer. What kind of guitar did you use, and what pickup on the guitar did you use (e.g., neck or bridge pickup or both)? Might be the amp as well, but I'd first look at the guitar.

It's a minor annoyance to me - but definitely not a loss of definition (I thought that was good). And it's just my opinion - maybe it's a sound you like.
 
I have a reissue of a 72 mexican tele. I'm not sure what year like 2004 maybe? I used center setting so both humbuckers I think. The amps are actually logic pro x sims, I cranked the treble because they seemed a little muffled, that may be what's causing the fizziness you hear. But I also added a 3db boost at 2.5k to one side of each guitar pair (with a matching cut opposite side) so you may be hearing that. I can probably pick a different frequency I think it'll still get the effect I want.
 
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