bit of rocking nonsense

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started out as an experiment...wanted to try and get the sound of stadium rock drums with my usual crap....dunno where Ill take it from here, I kinda like it being boombastic but I came to a creative halt and it got a bit predictable

I think the drums sound pretty hot...its NI studio drummer (on sale just now) and my maschine mikro...the snare sounds like its being well pummeled, dunno if thats a good thing lol


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any comments or suggestions gratefully accepted, I dont even mind if I bin it...it was a good exercise :)
 
I listened once late last night and the whole second half of this piece really worked for me.

Initially, I was kind of thrown by the "stadium rock" drums - that is exactly how they sound. The tune felt unfinished to me for the first however many minutes. I either just got used to the drums as the tune went along or you changed things up so that it sounded better in context, but the combination of those drums and that phat, deep, BWAAAAH effect you've been using on many tunes lately (the Moog?) was really very cool in the second half.

LOL. I can't describe synth sounds. Maybe you know the sound I'm talking about, but probably no idea. I want you to add that to one of my tunes!

Anyway, I was half in the bag last night and need to listen again tonight (at work now) with a clearer head. Perhaps I'll have something helpful then.
 
There he goes again having doubts....:facepalm:
It's fantastic. And those drums sound pretty interesting. Have NI got a demo version of Studio Drummer out? Gotta check it out....
 
heatmiser said:
I listened once late last night and the whole second half of this piece really worked for me.

Initially, I was kind of thrown by the "stadium rock" drums - that is exactly how they sound. The tune felt unfinished to me for the first however many minutes. I either just got used to the drums as the tune went along or you changed things up so that it sounded better in context, but the combination of those drums and that phat, deep, BWAAAAH effect you've been using on many tunes lately (the Moog?) was really very cool in the second half.

LOL. I can't describe synth sounds. Maybe you know the sound I'm talking about, but probably no idea. I want you to add that to one of my tunes!

Anyway, I was half in the bag last night and need to listen again tonight (at work now) with a clearer head. Perhaps I'll have something helpful then.
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thanks for listening mate...yeah the drums are wicked I think...NI has some really nice samples theyre just long to load and you have to manually route them out, but its worth it

the bass part your talking about is from NI's massive, the moog is doing all the other bass parts...yeah weve got to get a track together...maybe when I get some trip hop drums together for you?


but it is half finished, the break is boring, and theres an empty space after the dubstep parts where the choir is, it just sounds kinda shitty...I may shelve it and remix some of it into something else


joeym said:
There he goes again having doubts....:facepalm:
It's fantastic. And those drums sound pretty interesting. Have NI got a demo version of Studio Drummer out? Gotta check it out....
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lol thanks Joe...but when I think it sounds a bit crap I shouldnt even post it...still I think the mix is close, and the drums and electro kinda work too...thanks ofr listening mate and glad to see you around again :)
 
Gotta be honest, dude... I'm not entirely sure about this one. The drums don't necessarily sound like stadium drums to me (not enough reverb / FX to sound 'stadium'). Also, the piece kind of sounds like a guy trying to play a drum kit along with an electronic piece. Just doesn't fit to my ears.

The production quality, on the other hand, is pretty flippin' awesome.
 
I think it all fits together pretty good man. A lot of bands mix acoustic with a little synth thrown in. If it had some vocals to turn it into a real song it would be bitching :D
 
PoeticIntensity said:
Gotta be honest, dude... I'm not entirely sure about this one. The drums don't necessarily sound like stadium drums to me (not enough reverb / FX to sound 'stadium'). Also, the piece kind of sounds like a guy trying to play a drum kit along with an electronic piece. Just doesn't fit to my ears.

The production quality, on the other hand, is pretty flippin' awesome.
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I get what youre saying.....I think the fills work to me, and some of it does, some of it doesnt...but I think if the synths were mindblowing the drums wouldnt matter so much perhaps


they arent though lol


still it was worth the experiment, Ive got a shitload of acoustic drum stuff and I only use a handful of the samples...I blame it on GAS..I just bought another drum expansion kit yesterday :facepalm:
 
FoulPhil said:
I think it all fits together pretty good man. A lot of bands mix acoustic with a little synth thrown in. If it had some vocals to turn it into a real song it would be bitching :D
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yeah maybe if it was that techno rock type of thing...besides I wouldnt know where to start putting vocals on this other than shouting "rasta man" every eight bars lol


if you want a project I could strip it back (I think theres a moog line taking up a lot of space) and you can have a go?
 
hahah ok up to you. It might take a while to think something up :P
 
Ok, listening again with a clearer head and am surprised that it doesn't sound completely different to me.

It's really the 1st third of it that drags a bit for me (I wish I could point to specific times, but I hate the quick time pro player - no counter, can't download - argh!). The part that really sounds awesomest to me is around a thrid of the way through, just after a set of big drum fills, and then there is this call and answer between a sort of shrill version of the haunted house organ on one side and the fat BWAA WA WA WAH synth on the other. That section is just killer.

I love the voices, piano and the muted panned drums during the break about 2/3s through, but I thought maybe the haunted house organ (that's what I'm calling it anyway!) kind of stepped all over that stuff. The last 1/3 is just chock full of that call/answer thing that I dig, so that is cool. Drums sound big and full with nice verb. I found the fills to be a little overwhelming myself at times.

My daughter came over inquiring, "is that the Scottish clown?" "He always makes good music". Then she started humming one of the melody lines from this which was cute at first but is frankly getting a little annoying - thanks a lot!
 
Ha ha cool.... :D

I've been playing with a similar drum sound but haven't found the opportunity to use it yet... big "live" kit.. wouldn't call it stadium though.

I think the fills at the end were pretty good, but the earlier ones could use a nudge here and there... when you perfect them, send me the MIDI file will ya? I spend half my life trying to make fills sound less crappy... still haven't worked it out.

Nothing specific for you except that perhaps the first section is a bit light on for diversion... by the end you really get into the "call and response" thing as heat described it... and had my groove hat on.

Back to work... damn... keep 'em coming...:drunk:

Heat - you don't do "right click and Save Target As"? Not that I'm promoting the theft of kc's toonage... :D
 
FoulPhil said:
hahah ok up to you. It might take a while to think something up :P
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cool man Ill cut some room out if you want to have a go with some guitar and vocals or whatever....no pressure, I doubt Im going to use any of this for anything else

heatmiser said:
Ok, listening again with a clearer head and am surprised that it doesn't sound completely different to me.

It's really the 1st third of it that drags a bit for me (I wish I could point to specific times, but I hate the quick time pro player - no counter, can't download - argh!). The part that really sounds awesomest to me is around a thrid of the way through, just after a set of big drum fills, and then there is this call and answer between a sort of shrill version of the haunted house organ on one side and the fat BWAA WA WA WAH synth on the other. That section is just killer.

I love the voices, piano and the muted panned drums during the break about 2/3s through, but I thought maybe the haunted house organ (that's what I'm calling it anyway!) kind of stepped all over that stuff. The last 1/3 is just chock full of that call/answer thing that I dig, so that is cool. Drums sound big and full with nice verb. I found the fills to be a little overwhelming myself at times.

My daughter came over inquiring, "is that the Scottish clown?" "He always makes good music". Then she started humming one of the melody lines from this which was cute at first but is frankly getting a little annoying - thanks a lot!
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ha, youre daughter is well cool...corned beef (deaf) but cool ;)

yeah when I listen to it myself I go straight the the last part.....ah well, I dont think Ill use it for anything...I liked the drums though...the organs actually two different samples of all sega game bleeps put in a sampler, funny what you can come up with

next tracks a beaut though...prolly my favourite so far I think

thanks Pete

Armistice said:
Ha ha cool.... :D

I've been playing with a similar drum sound but haven't found the opportunity to use it yet... big "live" kit.. wouldn't call it stadium though.

I think the fills at the end were pretty good, but the earlier ones could use a nudge here and there... when you perfect them, send me the MIDI file will ya? I spend half my life trying to make fills sound less crappy... still haven't worked it out.

Nothing specific for you except that perhaps the first section is a bit light on for diversion... by the end you really get into the "call and response" thing as heat described it... and had my groove hat on.

Back to work... damn... keep 'em coming...:drunk:

Heat - you don't do "right click and Save Target As"? Not that I'm promoting the theft of kc's toonage... :D
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Ill have a check on those fills, they arent hard quantized but something may have been nudged too much..Ill double check mate...its kinda an 80% finished track but theres just something missing and I cant think anything up...plus the middle breakdown is pretty shite..I was making stuff like that two years ago...so much for progress :D
 
oh and I can send the midi files if you want...but mind these were for Kontakt and maybe slightly different from GM ones....what drum software are you using, I can prolly convert them?
 
kcearl said:
oh and I can send the midi files if you want...but mind these were for Kontakt and maybe slightly different from GM ones....what drum software are you using, I can prolly convert them?
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Addictive... but I was only joshing... I need to work it out myself so I can do it when and wherever I need to! But thanks anyway.. :D
 
I like it dude! :) Wish I could make stuff half this good lol.
 
Every now & then the kit sounds like someone playing along rather than being integrated. generally it seems a part of the whole.
It'd be worth finishing - maybe some doometal vox with a barbi girl style M8.
You've become quite adept at making the music mate.
You should be off down the frog n toad with the cheese for a glass of cheer with your chinas.
 
That opening drum pattern sounds like that Breeders "Cannonball" song.

The drums don't sound "stadium" to me. They're too isolated. The individual drum panning is too wide and clean. Snare needs to be fatter/deeper sounding. I like the overall jist though. The drums sound cool with the backjing trippiness going on. This reminds me of the old 80's/90's industrial music back when they still used real instruments. I think this is cool. I think some big open distorted guitar chords ringing out into feedback would go with the more rock and roll feel of the song.
 
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